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Women’s Dream Enlightenment | Episode 51
Introducing Cathleen Beerkens
Cathleen is not only an author and educator but also a beacon for those of us looking to understand the intricate dance between our physical existence and quantum reality. She delves into topics that encourage us to see beyond the physical realm and embrace our roles as conscious creators of our own realities.
Understanding Enlightenment
Cathleen redefines enlightenment as a journey toward becoming lighter in every sense—body, mind, and spirit. She emphasizes how this process of illumination is crucial as the world rapidly evolves. It’s a leap in consciousness that extends beyond just spiritual growth, affecting our physical and mental dimensions as well.
The Journey from Medicine to Quantum Healing
Cathleen’s professional journey began in traditional medicine, where she faced the harsh realities of suffering and illness. Growing up with family members in the medical field, she felt a natural calling to heal. Her experiences in hospitals exposed her to profound human vulnerability and ignited a transformative path toward holistic and quantum healing.
A pivotal moment came when she moved to Europe and explored alternative medicines like kinesiology. This opened her up to a deeper understanding of inherited trauma, leading her to uncover familial emotional legacies and recognize the interconnectedness of physical ailments with emotional well-being.
Ancestral Healing and Epigenetics
Cathleen’s personal experiences with inherited trauma highlight the profound impact of ancestral stories on our present lives. Through epigenetics, she illustrates how emotions and unresolved narratives are stored in our DNA, urging us to recognize and clear these energetic entanglements. The journey toward wellness begins when we start to see ourselves as multidimensional beings capable of transforming our realities.
Manifestation and Conscious Creation
In our discussion on manifestation, Cathleen explains the importance of aligning the body, mind, and spirit. Manifestation isn’t just about positive thinking; it requires a holistic, high-vibrational alignment. Our creator matrix—comprising physical, mental, and spiritual aspects—must vibrate in harmony for effective manifestation.
The Role of Dreams in Transformation
Dreams play a significant role in Cathleen’s life, acting as portals to deeper understanding and healing. She shares experiences where dreams provided guidance and closure with past mentors and family. The thin veil between dimensions during sleep enables a flow of insights and messages that foster personal growth and transformation.
The Power of Collective Connection
As we venture into the Age of Aquarius, Cathleen believes in the strength of community and collective healing. She advocates for nurturing our connections with like-minded groups, fostering a spirit of collaboration and love, which is critical in these times of change and chaos. Her message is clear: by working together and embracing a more feminine, intuitive approach, we can become powerful co-creators of a hopeful future.
Conclusion
My conversation with Cathleen Beerkens sheds light on the intricate connections between physical wellness, ancestral wisdom, and conscious creation. Her insights call us to awaken to our multidimensional nature and empower ourselves through understanding and clearing the paths laid by our ancestors. For those seeking guidance on this transformative journey, Cathleen’s book Your Creator Matrix is a profound resource, available on Amazon.
I invite you to listen to the full podcast episode and explore Cathleen’s journey of enlightenment and healing. Let her wisdom inspire you toward a greater understanding of your place within the universal tapestry.
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[amy robeson: Women’s Dream Enlightenment Guest Recording Session
Megan Mary – MeganMary: [00:00:00] Welcome! Today we have Amy Robison, Akashic Record Master Teacher Healer and Founder of Sacred Awakening. She empowers individuals through her powerful Akashic Records program to tap into their inner potential for transformation by cultivating curiosity to live their best lives. Amy speaks light codes and light language, plus she shows you how to be courageous enough to walk your divine path. Welcome, Amy.
Amy Robeson: Thanks for having me. I’m excited to be here.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Oh, it’s wonderful to have you here. And there’s so many things that we’re going to talk about today. I’m really excited for our conversation.
Amy Robeson: Me too.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: So I’m going to ask you the first question that I ask everybody. And that is, what does enlightenment mean to you?
Amy Robeson: That’s a good question. So enlightenment means to me is to enter into light. So you’re embarking on this journey of [00:01:00] embracing all the dark parts of yourself and healing them throughout your lifetime. So it’s like you’re bringing yourself into light because we were both equally light and dark.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yes. And that’s true. It’s important to not discard the darkness. A lot of people think, Oh, we need to dispel the darkness. We need to get rid of our shadow, but we really have to embrace them both. We have to integrate them into that wholeness rather than discarding or trying to push away that darkness.
So I think that’s important.
Amy Robeson: Yeah, I, I agree. It’s this radical honesty with ourselves. And when it comes to enlightenment too, it’s a self discovery journey. Like when you are discovering something new about yourself, either good, bad or neutral, it allows you to have an understanding of where your frequency is vibrating at. [00:02:00] And do you want to vibrate at that frequency or do you want something different?
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yes, and I’d love for you to talk a little bit with the listeners about your journey. And how you came to discover all of these things that we’re going to talk about today, we’re going to talk about light language and Akashic records and spirit guides and crystalline energy and all these amazing things, but how did you discover all of this yourself?
Amy Robeson: It, was because I was in a dark place. So I was in a place where I didn’t want to be here anymore. And I started receiving intuitive downloads. At the time, I didn’t have that languaging. And I just kept hearing go to hot yoga. I’m like, I don’t even know what that is. But I looked it up finally one day and there was a brand new Bikram studio.
Down the road from my house. And I was like, okay, I’ll go check this out. And when I went, it was like the first time, in a very long time that I just felt. [00:03:00] happy and at peace and in my body and I didn’t feel like I was disassociating. And that one step led me to the next step, led me to the next step, led me to the next step.
And I’m a big believer. Just follow the energy that your heart is guiding you to say yes to, and you will be taken down paths. You’ve never imagined that you would be taken down. That is for the better of your soul. And so from that place, I started having this desire to learn how to meditate and I moved I, I’m from Milwaukee, Wisconsin, and I moved to Charleston, South Carolina to be with my now husband.
And when I moved there yoga got taken away from me because I got injured. I cracked my tailbone for the second time in my life. And so I was in constant chronic pain and I was depressed. I was homesick. I didn’t have my usual schedule. I was going through an identity crisis. I was definitely going through a dark night of the soul.
And I just. [00:04:00] I didn’t know what to do. And so I sat down and I was like, what are the things that I’ve been wanting to do that I’ve been putting off? And that was to learn how to meditate and to do dream interpretation. And I know you’re really into dreams as well. And because at the time I was having nightmares for years and years of people killing me.
And so I wanted to understand what my dreams meant, because I’ve had prophecy dreams since I was a little kid. And so I wanted to have a better understanding of that landscape and what my subconscious was trying to tell me or where I was at in my dreams. And so I found my first teacher and my first teacher had channeling abilities like Edgar Casey, she was a trans medium and she would do these life soul readings.
And at the end of that reading, I was telling her how I wanted to learn how to meditate and how I wanted to learn how to do dream interpretation. And it was literally everything she taught. She taught people how [00:05:00] to do these things. And so that led me down this path of. Discovering healing abilities and the Akashic records and it just one thing would lead into the other, lead into the other.
And now I’m here talking to you. It’s just insane. Like, it’s insane. What one decision can make on your entire life.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yeah, I love that journey. I’ve also injured my tailbone, so I know how horrible that can be. And yes, and I used to do Bikrama yoga a lot, a long time ago, so I also know how freeing that can be. So yes, and meditation actually was one of the doorways that got me into my whole spiritual remembering as well.
Amy Robeson: That’s awesome.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yeah, it really was what Call was called for at the time that seemed to quiet my mind enough to let that, that information start coming through. Like you said, those downloads and the directives because they were a lot of directives and [00:06:00] they were pretty emphatic. Like, you have to do this and you have to do it now and you better hurry.
That was really how
mine
Amy Robeson: taking you out the door.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: It was just, it was like, it wasn’t like you have a choice and it wasn’t like when you’re ready. It was like, oh, no, go, go, go, go, go.
Amy Robeson: Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. For, me, meditation killed my chronic pain. I was able to get off pain pills within a month, a month and a half, because it was so long. I don’t remember the exact amount of time, but within a month and a half, I was no longer limping. I limped for over a year.
I was in chronic pain for over a year because it was the second time I cracked my tailbone. It wasn’t the first time it was the second time. So, and when you’re in pain, you get just sucked into the tornado of pain and it consumes you when you don’t have an outlet for it.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yes, absolutely. It’s so distracting. It’s all your brain can focus on and it’s, you can’t think of anything else but that pain. I also have [00:07:00] had chronic pain, and I know exactly what that’s like. I’ve had some guests on that have talked about overcoming chronic pain with meditation. And it’s very powerful, the power of the mind.
And people don’t necessarily give it enough credence, I think, particularly in the medical field, because they throw medications at it. And yes, sometimes you need those in the short term, but. At least in my journey, you find out in the long term that you actually have to really bring your mind into that healing scenario that you can’t just address what’s going on in the body without addressing what’s going on in the mind.
Amy Robeson: Yeah, absolutely. And the, the thing about pain is most pain is emotional pain. You are experiencing it physically, but when you work on the emotional components of it, you can untangle some of the mess with it as well. And then there is pain. Physical pain. So we’re not like discounting physical pain, because if you break your ankle, you crack your tailbone, you [00:08:00] fracture something, you go through a medical procedure, there’s real pain, physical pain there, but there’s emotional components as well.
Just like I had a friend that had a hysterectomy, but she was still having pains down there. I’m like, you got to work on the emotional component of it. Cause if you don’t, you’re going to have those phantom pain still there that is causing you, your body signaling your, your soul is signaling. There’s something here that’s been buried in the past.
That’s time for you to take a look at.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yes. And that’s how dreams work too, isn’t it? They signal to you, Hey, there’s something buried here that we need to uncover, that we need to bring to the fore and that you might not be a top of mind. It might not be something you think. Even consciously know are aware of,
but once you start to decode that language and you start to understand the messages that it’s sending you, you realize, oh, yeah, okay, I do.
[00:09:00] I need to do something about that.
Amy Robeson: definitely.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: So talk a little bit about activating our DNA.
Amy Robeson: So we have trillions and trillions and trillions of cells in our body. And when our consciousness fell, there were some dark forces that place certain seals upon us to make us forget to not allow us to connect to our unconditional love to access our dream states to their fullest capacity to feel that we might be punished for our sins.
This is called like the wrath of God or God guilt. And there’s many things that were placed upon our DNA and we have the ability to activate our DNA and restructure our DNA. We have, I believe, over 13 trillion cells in our body. Majority of those have DNA strands. And don’t quote me on the exact number because I [00:10:00] can’t remember and I haven’t looked it up in a while, but we have trillions and with that it’s, we take our lifetime to activate our DNA and so we can activate our DNA through spiritual practices, through experiences, through meditation.
And we can also go in and purposely activate the DNA. And this is where I come in and I’ll I do it inside of the Akashic Records. We activate a certain amount of strands of DNA and within that particular activation, because we don’t want to activate all of our strands all at once. One, we wouldn’t be able to handle the frequency or the energy.
We would have a massive identity crisis and it’s just not good, but we can go in and we can activate a certain amount and depending on what DNA is activated at that time will depend on what experience you get to have with that activation around where The last activation round I did, like I had a massive, massive shift in my light [00:11:00] language and my channeling with the light language and my understanding of light language.
And then there’s times where you’re accessing new gifts, or there’s times where you’re letting go of old patterns or beliefs, or it could be working on some sort of health issue a disease within your body. And so it just depends on you and what’s being activated and what serves the highest good at that moment in time, because it meets you where you’re at in that particular time.
And so it’s really neat because I’ve had students that are like , I’m downloading this new knowledge that’s very esoteric that no one’s taught me and I’m looking it up and it’s like very on point with other concepts.
And so it’s, it’s really neat when it happens because I never know what’s going to happen for each student because it’s, I’m not picking what’s going to happen. It’s their soul. That’s picking what’s going to happen and what serves the highest good at that time. And [00:12:00] we want to work on our DNA throughout our lifetime.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: That’s so interesting. And how does that tie in with activating the crystalline energy?
Amy Robeson: There’s like a through line for me in all of my work. I, I use crystalline energy and DNA activations. I use it in all my healings and meditations and downloads. And I teach the Akashic records. How do people, how. To open your Akashic records using crystalline energy and so crystalline energy and light language and the Akashic records are all are my 3 through lines for everything.
Those are 3 tools that I’m constantly utilizing and we’re carbon based beings. We’re moving to a crystalline being. And so with that, we want to work with the crystalline energy. To assist in shifting our frequency and up leveling our frequency we have tons and tons and tons of crystalline energy within the earth.[00:13:00]
And just like if you go to Arkansas, it’s in the riverbeds, it’s in the water. And we can access that and. They want to support us. They want to connect with us and they want to assist us. And I’m going to use this blanket term like X, Y, Z, depending on what it is you’re working on, there’s a crystalline energy that can support that.
So if you’re wanting to get better sleep or you’re wanting to amplify your intuition, or if you’re wanting to get more heart centered, or if you’re wanting to heal your emotional body, or if you’re wanting to balance your root chakra, there is a crystalline energy that can support you and bringing that into balance or support you in coming into that frequency.
Cause at the end of the day, we’re all frequency.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yes, absolutely. And that’s why sound frequency is so powerful
Amy Robeson: Yeah, absolutely.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: There’s so many ways to help raise our vibration. I think a lot of these healing modalities really just work in that method that they really help us to move [00:14:00] out the old energy, bring in that new energy and keep us vibrating at that higher level that allows us to tap into that spiritual intelligence, allows us to connect with that greater source that has all that information for us that we have been separated from, detached from, or we just kind of decided not to listen to anymore.
Amy Robeson: Yeah. And the, the cool part is, is you get to choose your path. If there’s a tool that doesn’t resonate with you, then don’t, don’t utilize that tool. That tool is not the end all, be all tool. It’s what tools work for you and what do you really connect with? Because just like with meditation. That’s a, generic form of saying, to go within, right.
But there’s different types of meditation and not every type you’re going to resonate with. The main thing is to [00:15:00] utilize that tool in a way that resonates with you. And for, me these are the tools that I really enjoy that have really changed my life. And I’ve seen other people’s life gets changed by that, but.
It’s not a tool for every single person. And, like, just where you were talking about sound healing, like, light language. Is one form of sound healing because you’re making sounds and every sound or tone holds paragraphs of information that your higher self completely understands, even if your mind doesn’t understand what it means, but your higher self completely understands how to utilize that cosmic language of your soul to support you in healing.
And not everyone’s light language is or. You as well. So it’s like you got to be really you have to use a lot of discernment to [00:16:00] understand does that align with my path in this moment in time, because not everything that everybody shares and it can be good, bad or good. Neutral, not everything that everybody’s sharing at any given time is in alignment with you.
They could be offering something so awesome. That’s so high vibe, but it’s not in alignment with the frequency in which you are moving into, and it can really distort some things. And so this is the spiritual practice of discernment is so important on our path because. You have to understand that you are solely responsible for your enlightened path.
You are solely responsible for your awakening. And when you understand like, Oh, that person’s offering this, will this help me hold full time? If it does, and it’s in alignment, perfect. If it doesn’t, or it didn’t work for you, Ask why and there has to be some [00:17:00] form of accountability on your own and on why it didn’t work.
And if the teacher showed up and did everything they were supposed to do that, they promised if it didn’t work, why, why didn’t work? And, or if it did, why did it work? Because what did you do to allow it to work? Because a healer, and I consider myself a healer, I’m not healing anybody. I’m showing up with a particular frequency for my clients to meet, and they are the ones that open the door to allow that frequency to meet them where they’re at, so they can raise their frequency.
They are the ones that are healing themselves. And they are their own guru. They are their own answer to in which they are seeking whatever it is that they are seeking freedom from or enlightenment or healing or whatever it, it may be.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: I agree with that a hundred percent, especially with the dream work that I do. It’s not [00:18:00] something that you really can sell per se. It’s something that someone has to find and be drawn to you because of your vibration and know that you have a way that you can help them help themselves because The way that I work with it.
I don’t put a on a person. I don’t say, well, this is what it is. I help them draw out the meaning for themselves. Someone called me a midwife of dreams. And that’s, that’s kind of how I. Look at it that I’m just the guide. I’m just the assistant and that they’re really the ones doing the work.
They’re the ones finding me. They’re the ones being willing to do that work. And I’m, I’m glad you also brought up the light language because that is something I really want to talk about today. You’re the first guest that I’ve had on that is really focusing on that. And I, I like what you said about, not all of it being right for everyone, because when I first discovered it, of course, it was [00:19:00] fated.
And what I heard just shot up my chakras, just all of a sudden I was like, whoa. And I was like, this is so powerful. This is so amazing. And then when I went to listen to a few others, I was like, okay, that’s not the same. And I wouldn’t have known that at the first experience. I would have thought, oh, it’s all like this.
Amy Robeson: No. And so language assists with bringing someone out of a trance. We are in many different trances in our life. And what it does is it speaks higher self to higher self. It’s a cosmic language of your soul. And what the channeler is doing, the light language person is doing, either they’re speaking it, signing it, moving with it or writing with it. And so with these different forms of light language. We’re tuning into a particular radio station that where we’re [00:20:00] channeling information from not every radio station for this channel is of light and so in some people knowingly or unknowingly are channeling something that they shouldn’t be channeling.
Or have someone that’s channeling this high vibrational light, but it is not a frequency match for your soul’s evolution at that particular moment in time. It might be at some point in your journey, or it might not be. And so everybody’s frequency is matched and what your higher self and your physical body experiences, because it’s also really important to understand that your physical body has to hold the frequency.
And if your physical body. Is not in a place to [00:21:00] hold it, or it’s just a complete frequency mismatch, because you might have this super high vibrational frequency you’re listening to someone that’s channeling, it might not be. darkness, but it’s a lower vibrational frequency than what you are vibrating at, it’s going to be a mismatch.
And so it’s really important to use discernment when it comes to connecting with someone that is speaking light language. And my guides, They told me I was going to start speaking it publicly and I’m like, no, I’m not doing that. I don’t want to do that. And they’re like, no, it’s, it’s really an alignment with your path and get comfortable with it.
And I’m like, I don’t want to do that. Please don’t like, I don’t I was really resistant because it’s super weird. Like, I’m the 1st 1 to admit it and I sneak it it’s very, very, very weird. And but it’s fun. It’s so much fun. And [00:22:00] once I started doing it, I was like, okay, I understand it. And then I remembered, oh, I used to do this when I was a kid, I used to speak light language when I was a kid, my sister and I would have this, our own language that we would speak to each other and, and we knew exactly what, what we meant.
And once I started speaking, I was like, okay, I get it. Oh, I remember now. Okay. Totally remember now. And so I have been speaking my language, I think since like 2000 as an adult since 2018. And it’s like, again, I still think it’s weird. And it’s funny because anybody that I, that I’ve worked with, they’re like, we can’t get enough of it.
Like, it’s just something that. Just changes what is being channeled because there aren’t human words that we can put in to articulation that wants to be [00:23:00] shared because it’s a frequency that’s being shared and we can describe the essence of it, but still we cannot put it into human words. What is fully.
Transcribed Being shared. And I think it’s just really neat, like super, super neat. Mm hmm. Mm
Megan Mary – MeganMary: it’s like trying to describe to someone that can’t hear what a song sounds like. It’s very difficult to put into words. something auditory. And I know myself when, when mine was activated, it really came in the form of song, but it was almost like it was self soothing is the best way I can
describe it.
Because when you hear others that are on your frequency speak it, it’s incredibly soothing.
It just takes you immediately to this other level and you get lost in it. And it’s like being held. I don’t know. I can’t describe how it [00:24:00] feels to me, but, for myself, it felt like I was doing that for myself.
Amy Robeson: Yeah, absolutely. And some people, it’s like one of my friends, he described it the best to me. I was doing a healing and he’s like, I was dozing off. And the second you started speaking, it was like my higher self was like, Hey, you know what? Listen, pay attention. This is important. And so, like, it snaps me into this new reality of wanting to receive.
And so, to me, it’s really fascinating. And the more that I utilize the tool and the more that I have more open discussions about it, The deeper my practice goes and my deeper the understanding goes as well, but I just, to me, it’s like. It’s such a weird thing, but it’s our birthright to speak it.
It’s our birthright to perform it. And some people are more comfortable [00:25:00] drawing. Some people are more comfortable moving with it. And some people are comfortable speaking with it. So it just depends on the student of the practice. What they’re drawn to. And with my light language, magic students, , it’s always fun every round because some of them are like, yeah, I really like doing the movement, but I, I’m really scared to do the sound.
And so we go back and forth on what we’re doing and how we’re doing it. Cause all of the forms are important because sometimes people need to move with it to get really in their body. Well, others they might not be used to speaking up. So speaking, it’s really powerful to have that to assist you in speaking your truth and honoring your truth.
And then well, well, written takes you into this really deep vortex of knowledge with it. And so everybody has a different form on what they’re. Gravitate towards and some some sing it some sound like a foreign [00:26:00] language and some it’s toning.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Right. And what would you suggest in terms of discerning whether it’s for you or not? For me, I would just say you’ll know immediately because it’s kind of like if you get in the car and there’s a song blasting and it’s, you don’t want to hear it. It’s not on your vibe, quote unquote, and you know right away, but are there other levels to that? Yeah.
Amy Robeson: So it depends on how people receive. So to me, it sounds like you have very strong clear cognizant, which is a clear knowing. And so someone might. a feeling where it’s like a gut feeling of like, no, I don’t like that or it might be a feeling of like expansion while another person might hear a yes or no, or feel a yes or no in their body, or it might have a particular taste or smell to it, or you [00:27:00] might see a sign that it’s a yes or no.
Or no for you. And so it’s really understanding how you receive information through your intuition. , if you ever got that gut feeling and that you were like, I shouldn’t have done that after you did it, even though you got the gut feeling beforehand, that right there gives you an idea of like, Oh, that’s kind of how I receive.
And I should have listened to my intuition at that moment in time. And so it’s important to not glamorize intuition, but utilize intuition in a way that allows you to fully understand how you’re receiving. And that’s where doing things in meditation or doing with the, Akashic records or anything that allows you to really utilize your intuition.
So you understand, how you receive is helpful.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yes, I was just having a conversation online yesterday with another woman that she had gone into a bookstore and she had touched a particular book and started getting a [00:28:00] ringing in her ear. And, and she was wondering if she was, receiving some information. And I was like yeah, you are. Cause that’s definitely, I mean, I have so many of the Claire’s, but that’s another one is Claire, Claire audience for sure.
And everyone has all of them, but everyone starts out with certain ones being stronger.
Amy Robeson: that’s more, yeah, one’s just stronger. and if you’re an empath, typically you have a very clear knowing. Like, that’s the strongest Clare. Like, you identify as an empath, like, that’s usually typically the strongest Clare.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: In so many ways that dream state for me comprises all of those clairsenses, because it’s, it’s I have this space where I, that I call the middle world and , I get middle messages and they’re basically when I’m going from that dream state to that waking state and I like to hang out in there as much as possible.
And I know there’s famous inventors that used to actually try to induce that state over and over again so that they could
stay in that state.[00:29:00]
Amy Robeson: yeah. That’s cool. Would you consider that like lucid dreaming then if you’re
Megan Mary – MeganMary: No, it’s because it’s not actually dreaming. it’s transitioning from theta to beta, so
it’s this weird half half
Amy Robeson: I got what you mean. I know exactly
Megan Mary – MeganMary: where I’m not actually controlling it, I’m receiving,
Amy Robeson: But you’re aware that you’re there to some degree?
Megan Mary – MeganMary: but you don’t have all the faculties of judgment ready. So what you’re receiving if you’re trying to, if you’re trying to analyze whether you’re going to write it down or not, which is what I do a lot I’ll say, Oh, well, it’s just this.
I don’t need to write it down. And then as soon as I wake up, I go, wait a minute. What was that? Oh, I should have written it down because it’s very much then once you have all your faculties and then you go, Oh, okay. Okay. That was something major. And so
that’s why I constantly, constantly writing down everything I receive, whether it makes sense to me at the moment or not, because it’s really that, that space is where I get the most information, it seems. [00:30:00] But I would love if you would be willing to, if you would like to communicate a light Language message to the audience in closing today. I’m sure that they would really enjoy that.
Amy Robeson: Yeah, so we can do like a little mini healing transmission because the way that I use it is just within healings. So is there something you are working on right now that you would like support with?
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yes. Well, my debut novel is about to come out. So it’s definitely something that I’m working on and just really charging out into the world and bringing everyone that needs to receive it in.
Amy Robeson: Okay, perfect. So we’ll do something with the fear of the unknown. So just letting go of the fear of the unknown. So we’ll just kind of make that the first thing I heard when you said that with your book coming out, which I’m really excited for your book to come out.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Awesome.
Amy Robeson: Okay. [00:31:00] So please do not drive or operate heavy machinery.
I know that sometimes people take that as a joke, but it’s a very serious comment because some people do fall into a deep trance while these transmissions and so don’t drive, you can come back to this later or operate heavy machinery. And wherever you are in a safe place, you can go ahead and close your eyes, bring your awareness into your heart space.
And just receive a breath, taking a nice deep breath in through the nose, cleansing breath out through the mouth, yourself permission to ground down into mother earth. Another nice deep breath in, cleansing breath out, allowing your grounding cord to root into Gaia, Mother Earth’s heart chakra. So your grounding cord is going to go to the core of the earth, which is a crystalline ball of energy.
You’re just going to plug into Mother Earth’s heart [00:32:00] chakra. You’re going to receive a breath, pulling her energy up into you, allowing her to love on you, hold you, and cradle you. And then you’re going to feel the crown of your head stretch up towards the great central sun.
And you’ll take an inhale. And on the exhale, you’ll feel the great I am creation, God, universe, whatever sacred title you give that being just wrap its arms around you and hold you. And then I want you to sense, feel, see, or imagine that in the center of your heart space where you sit, There’s this beautiful green emerald energy that’s surrounding you, and as it surrounds you, it lifts you up out of your heart space and brings you across all space and time where you land in a beautiful place in nature.
It is [00:33:00] the perfect time of day and the perfect temperature. You’re going to notice that there is a bonfire nearby and a body of water. You’re going to make your way over to the bonfire first. And as you stand before the bonfire, you’ll notice sense for. You’ll see or imagine that there’s a beautiful violet flame and then it’s the yellows and the orange and the reds within the flame as well.
And as you’re staring at this flame, you’re being invited to let go of any fear. Any habits or patterns or beliefs that are no longer serving you from
from a place of continuity with your aligned path. And so what [00:34:00] that means is you’re letting go of fear of the unknown. So whatever’s holding you back. From stepping onto your aligned path, we’re going to let that go. And so you’re going to step into the flame. And as you step into the flame, the violet flame, the oranges, the reds are going to engulf you.
You are safe. You are safe. You are safe. And you’re just going to dance within this sacred flame. And as you’re dancing, you’re going to start releasing and the flame and this beautiful element is going to. Full and transform anything that’s no longer serving you.
And I want you to really stomp your feet into the flames, and as you stop your feet into the flames, there’s gonna be like this. Energy and it could be like [00:35:00] sludge or oil or dense energy or even flakes that are just like falling off of your body and being and what’s being extracted are these fears of the unknown, these beliefs, these patternings that may be from your soul lineage or your ancestral lineage.
It’s being cleared across all space and time portals and dimensions seen unseen known unknown. And I want you to just breathe. And as you’re breathing, I want you to give yourself permission to just surrender because the flame itself does not destroy. It transforms.
Through through. And then there the flame is gonna help remove protection mechanisms from the heart [00:36:00] system.
And you’re gonna take one nice deep breath and cleansing breath, and you’re gonna just stomp into the fire. And this is gonna send shock waves into your aligned path, letting the universe know that you are ready to take the steps. On your aligned path with a place of empowerment from a place of gratitude and most importantly from a place of non fear because you’re entering into a path of unknown territory that is powerful and magnificent and you have the ability to create what your soul desires for you to create.
At a very successful level, and once you just take a nice deep breath in a cleansing breath out, and there’s going to be three crystalline energies that are going to come in to support you in aligning with this beautiful path. [00:37:00] Emerald rose quartz.
and green tourmaline.
And when you’re ready, you’re going to step out of the flame and you’re going to jump into the body of water that is infused with crystalline energy. And it’s going to act as an elixir for your soul. And it’s going to bring in beautiful messages from your team, from your high vibrational team, which is creation, God, universe, and any of your Master’s teachers and loved ones that serve your highest good.
It’s going to bring downloads in and these downloads are going to be messages that you’ll receive at a later date, and you might receive a message right here. And if you don’t, that’s okay. But I want you to just open your heart to receive that. I see what a hot [00:38:00] hot. There’ll be a moment of silence while this downloads.
And then when you’re ready, you’re going to take another nice, deep breath in. Cleansing breath out, feeling your energy drop back into your heart space. Another nice, deep breath in. Cleansing breath out,
wiggling your fingers and your toes, bowing your chin in towards your chest, blinking your eyes open whenever you are ready.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Thank you so much, Amy. That was amazing. I really enjoyed that.
Amy Robeson: Awesome. Well, I, I wish you the best of luck with your book launch.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Oh, thank you so much. I really appreciate [00:39:00] that. And I know you’re a big audiobook fan, so I will definitely let you know when that’s ready.
Amy Robeson: Awesome.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yes. Yes. Well, thank you so much for being here today. Tell everyone where they can find you.
Amy Robeson: Yeah, you can go to theamyrobeson.com. That’s t h e a m y r o e as in boy is an edward s as in susan o n And if you put it in backslash free, there’s, we have 20 plus free healings on our website called sacred gifts. We have I have a weekly podcast that’s called awakening with Amy Robison. So there’s all sorts of different places you can find me.
So thanks for having me.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Oh, absolutely. Thank you so much for being here. And I just really, really appreciate all that you do and for sharing it with us today.
Amy Robeson: Yeah. Thank you so much.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Thank you.
Cathleen Beerkens: Women’s Dream Enlightenment
[00:00:00] You’re listening to Women’s Dream Enlightenment. Dream decoding, deep discussions, and spiritual stories of self discovery to inspire your personal enlightened journey. I’m your host, Megan Mary, founder of Women’s Dream Analysis. Let’s bring in the light.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Welcome! Today we have Cathleen Beerkens She holds a B. S. in Health Education and a B. S. N. She is the founder of A Wellness Revolution, an institute for integrative nutrition based in Amsterdam, the Netherlands, and is author of Your Creator Matrix. How to use optimal [00:01:00] wellness and quantum healing to master your story and create your reality.
Today we’re going to talk about quantum physics and what it means to be a creator and how our consciousness is the key to growth. Welcome Cathleen.
Cathleen Beerkens: Megan, so nice that you have me. Thank you I’m so grateful. I love this is a special and I’ve seen your work and thank you for the work you do.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Oh, thank you so much. Well, yes, it’s lovely to have you here and I can’t wait for to dive right into our conversation. So the first question I’m going to ask is the one I ask everybody and that is what does enlightenment mean to you?
Cathleen Beerkens: Yeah, that’s so funny that you asked that I I have had like arguments with people about this. Because the old way of thinking of enlightenment was not at all on the spiritual level. It was like the age of enlightenment, you know, it was a time of history. So I just think that’s interesting.
But [00:02:00] enlightenment means something very different to me it’s the process we’re on right now on the planet to evolve rather quickly. It’s a process of actually becoming lighter on all levels light is information. And when you’re in the light, I always say to my students, when I would turn a light on, you would see everything, and seeing and becoming aware of everything is consciousness.
So as we’re in this really big leap and jump in consciousness, it’s a very special time. We are becoming more enlightened, which is at the physical level, too, that our cells are becoming lighter. But it’s on all levels, body, mind, spirit, and all levels are affected by this process. And so, yeah, we’re getting smarter and we’re seeing more and we’re understanding more who we are.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Hmm. I really like that. Getting lighter and being enlightened. Yes, all good things. [00:03:00] So I love your journey that you have the health care background, but that you’ve really embraced the quantum part of healing. So let’s share with the audience that journey that you went on and how you arrived working in this space now starting out in health education.
Cathleen Beerkens: Yeah, I feel like we all have our journey and I think our journeys serve us. But mine started, I was very young. I just felt like a calling to be in medicine. In my family, doctor, nurse, that was the option. And it was, there was nothing else. We didn’t have any holistic, nothing holistic.
So I was, just, that’s your product of your environment. And I had a grandfather that was a doctor, uncles that were a doctor. My father was a PhD. That’s what I grew up with. So, and my mother was a teacher at a high level. So, I was just called. To do that and I felt it in in me. I really was drawn to the hospital But when I got there and I worked 12 years really in the I can [00:04:00] tell you I saw a lot of suffering And the most incredible, illness and this, dis-ease and what is it?
I mean, I was really like faced with it. And the first floor I was on was a floor where people would lose part of their face and their ability to talk and speak. And they were young, all ages. And I was in shock because I was young, and I, I think when you’re 26, 27, you think. Oh, this will last forever or you’re invincible.
And it was like a rude awakening to you are not your body. And actually I saw that firsthand because when they would lose all of this, they would still be there. And I had to learn how to connect with them without a voice, without eyesight sometime without ability. Yeah. Even to move. I mean, I, I would try to have them right sometimes, but sometimes it really had to be another way that I.
So this went on and I went into other types of [00:05:00] nursing with women, women’s health, labor and delivery, high risk in Washington, DC, of all places, emergency room. I did it all, but in the whole process I was becoming burnt out. Nobody tells you to take care of yourself, right?
You’re just, Oh, I’m experiencing this, trying to help everybody in the meantime, myself, I was kind of lost and I was married and had two kids and they were exhausted. Not that I, I mean, I love them. I have three now and they’re all grown up, but the medical system, they had challenges. Both of them.
The first one had physical challenges with this immune system. The second , she just was like one of these lightworkers that didn’t want to be incarnated. She was falling all the time. And so I was having issues with both of them early on. And in the middle of all this, my husband was not happy with this job.
And we were living in Washington, D. C. And he said, Do you mind, we have to move and it was a decision to move to New York or a decision to move to Europe because he’s from Amsterdam, [00:06:00] the Netherlands. And I wanted to move to New York because I wanted to go to graduate school and I had all these great ideas.
And when I went in and I felt it got really heavy in New York, this was 1996 and ironically I write this in the book, he was going to be in one of the towers in the 77th floor. So. That’s so interesting, right? So we moved to Holland and my mother in law, who had a friend who was a kinesiologist lived next to her.
And I was very fearful of my kids problems and it was really ridiculously out of control. And so my mother in law at one point said, Cathleen, you need go to this lady because this is like, maybe she can help you. Cause this is so much fear. So I went to her and the lady helped me and I write this all in my book.
And at one point she said to me, she’s checking other lives and checking other things. And she said, this that you have is not from you. [00:07:00] You’ve inherited it from a great, great, great grandmother on my mother’s side. You don’t talk to your parents about their grandparents. At least I didn’t at that point.
And she said this particular woman has lost 12 of 14 children. She asked the body and it told her that. And I had never heard this story. And I thought 12 of 14 children. That’s crazy. But the weirdest thing is she did a lot of things with me and a release of these fears.
And I always say when we have these fears that are so intense, like traumas, it’s like we write in a pen and then we, we erase it every day a bit. So it’s, we have to be patient because it’s like a process to totally release our fears because they’re very deep in us. So I immediately called my grandmother, of course, I was, she was still alive now she’s on the, you know, on the other side.
And I was like, Mimi, we called him. Can you tell me about your mother’s mother? Yeah. Yeah. Like your grandma, and she was [00:08:00] like, Oh, Mama Alice, and she started talking about her. And then she said she had lost a lot of children. And then it was the exact amount. And it was in a plague, like a smallpox thing.
And they all died like right at once, all her whole family. And then she had to get over that. And then she became a suffragette. She, she led the movement in America with a lot of women in the Midwest and started an organization that when it see in those days, women couldn’t have an organization. So she started the order with other women, the order of the Maccabee, one of the first societies for women.
And I mean, I didn’t know any of this. I started doing research on her. And I realized, and I write this in the book, now we inherit from all sides, all different things where the problems are, is our work. So I did not seem to inherit from my dad, any issues like that. It always went back to that line of my mother and I had to clear it [00:09:00] for the whole line.
And so, I mean, I could go on and on about it, but , that whole line died of lung problems and lungs are related to sadness. And so I started, my whole quest, I started to understand. That we can do a lot for our wellness. We can change our reality actually. And we have to understand that we’re multidimensional to do that.
We can’t do it with the same thoughts and the same reprogramming we used to have. So my awakening, you could say, and that was a while ago has taught me why I’m here and that there’s no accident and that I have a choice and that I have to work on these things. And I’m in service to humanity and I feel that deeply, but I don’t feel it like I have to.
I feel it like a joy.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yes, very interesting. I like that you really had that experience of clearing the ancestral line because that is so much at the [00:10:00] core of some of those DNA things that we carry with us that are energetically embedded in our physical being or maybe even our spiritual being that we don’t realize we’re carrying through and that it’s not even our There’s no fault, but it’s not certainly not ours.
It’s something that is just. I think embedded is the best way to, to explain it, but it is our duty to recognize it and to clear it. And that,
Cathleen Beerkens: right.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: that’s part of our path.
Cathleen Beerkens: Yeah. I was just going to say that like the epigenetics is showing us truly that we genetics, we have blue eyes, or we have brown eyes or we have, red hair, or that’s genetics, but there’s also another layer that we don’t understand. And that’s that all emotions and storylines, everything that we’ve experienced goes on the DNA.
That’s not resolved because everything seeks [00:11:00] resolution, all energetic imbalances. So if you inherit something, you know how you say, Oh, Johnny does that like grandfather. It can be a good thing. It can be like, wow, look at how he’s so confident like grandfather. He speaks like grandfather, but we don’t ever think about that, but we inherit all those things.
So also the positive, but it’s the negative that are holding us back. And we have to also start to recognize the positive. I work with so many people in healing and they just don’t realize how amazing they are. They’re so focused on what they don’t like about themselves or what somebody told them.
And this is the thing, this just travels through that DNA. So epigenetics is, the word epi means above genetics, and it’s showing us that we are able through our thoughts, by changing our thoughts, by shifting our emotional baggage, all the things in the life, and the storylines that I [00:12:00] was talking about, we are able to change our DNA.
And that we never understood, and many people would still say, Oh no, that’s not true, but I’ve seen it. I’ve experienced it and it’s exciting. It’s so exciting.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: That is, I mean, that’s fabulous news, right? Because it means that we’re not saddled with our DNA. And so many times in traditional medicine, we’re told, well, what you’re made of is what you’re made of. That’s, that’s how you’re put together. And You just have to deal with it. You have to put your band aids on it and take your medications and just accept your fate of your DNA, right?
Versus the complete opposite, which is that that can be changed, not just in the next generation, but in your current existence and that you have the power to do so. I mean, that’s really powerful stuff.
Cathleen Beerkens: It’s exciting. It’s hopeful. [00:13:00] So many people are not having hope right now. We have a lot of reasons to be hopeful, but there’s so much chaos that we can’t see beyond the chaos at this point. So we have to go. I think it’s really good. I always say to everybody, go to your heart right now and just be a lot more, be a lot more, think a lot less.
It’s helpful.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Oh, that’s so hard to do though, especially when you’re an analytical person
Cathleen Beerkens: Oh, yeah, I know, I know that,
Megan Mary – MeganMary: yes. So in terms, yeah, in terms of manifesting we hear a lot about manifestation in the New Age space, but there is a lot of confusion, I think, in terms of how much we can will things, I think, in terms of And how much we can affect things, in our thoughts, which [00:14:00] we might not be purposely willing.
So what I mean by that is, if we’re thinking that something negative is going to happen and we’re dwelling on that, we’re affecting that reality and we don’t realize it, but we can’t stop negatively projecting. And I think that’s most people’s default.
Cathleen Beerkens: yeah, I’ll address that. I think it’s, first of all, I called it your creator matrix because that we have to all accept that we are made of different dimensions. We’re not just physical. What we see with our eyes is only, it’s not even who we are. So we have to all agree on that.
And that’s already a conversation. But if we looked further at how we’re going to manifest or use. This vehicle which I call your creator matrix because you create with this whole being you’re not just creating with your thoughts By the way, you’re creating with a lot of parts of you all parts of us the body the mind Which are your thoughts your emotions and your [00:15:00] spiritual part all have to be in alignment for you to manifest and we have been So disconnected from each part of those So if you’re listening to this think about yourself which part of those?
We all favor one. You’ve been developing, maybe, maybe you’ve been really working on your body and you wanna feel better, so you’re working on your nutrition or maybe you’re very spiritual, so you’re meditating all the time or maybe you’re very, you’re an emotional therapist.
You’ve, your whole life, you’re worked on how to help people with their emotions and how to transcend the, the lower frequency ones. The thing is, we’re asked now to look at all aspects. And in order to manifest, all aspects have to be in alignment and vibrating at a high level. So if you think a thought, and yet in the subconscious, because our subconscious is powerful we are only having a lot of yeah, emotional baggage [00:16:00] that has not been cleared.
Yeah, we’re not going to manifest. And if we are very emotional clear. But we still hold ourselves to very limited beliefs. What is possible? We’re not going to manifest. If we spiritually are not connected, we’re not going to manifest. If we are not grounded, we’re not going to manifest. So it’s not so simple as just, Oh, the law of, attraction, Oh, let’s do that.
Well, you can’t attract something when you’re not it. So every part of us must be vibrating at that high level. In order to become it. So actually, the work we have to do is say, is to focus on clearing right now. Cleaning up things that are not in alignment with our true self. The other work is to, is to connect ourselves to our whole.
Many of us don’t even understand that they have a spiritual. [00:17:00] That they are an energetic field having a temporary human experience. And that is already a big thing to understand that. And when you start to understand that, and we can call that whatever we’re connected to God or whatever we want.
It doesn’t matter, but we are it, we are all connected. And that’s also crazy. That’s what quantum physics shows us that we’re, we’re actually all connected. So we have a feeling in this body that we’re separate and that we’re just separate beings and that, but that’s already that thought disconnecting us.
Do you see? Because if God is up there and we’re out here and we’re, we have to like be something else, we’re not connected already. Right? That thought. So a lot of our thoughts about who we are, are already in a disconnected state is what I’m saying. So we all have a lot of work to do to reconnect ourselves, all those levels so that we can become the greatest versions of ourselves.[00:18:00]
But I believe we are doing that right now. Like we are, we are going there. But people are like, Oh, but the world’s, the world’s horrible. It seems it right now, but there’s a mission, I guess, to the madness. That’s what I always say. Try to stay hopeful because I believe in the end, we’re going to be much more connected and we’re going to be more powerful.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yes, and so many people don’t realize. Yes. Yes. That we are spirit first and human second. And like you said, that’s the first layer of education. That’s the first thing that you have to understand in order to get any of this. And that our physical self and our existence here and everything we think that our life is, is an illusion.
And that’s really The theme of my second book is really just that and that’s where the mirror metaphor comes in because it’s all just an illusion that we have to see through in order to attain that higher level of [00:19:00] spiritual intelligence in order to embrace the universality of our existence to know that we are part of this larger thing and that we are all connected and not only are we not alone in that, but we have a duty in that.
Cathleen Beerkens: Yeah. That’s so beautifully said. Thank you. Megan. I love how you just said that. Yeah. It’s very important for us to make that jump, like a quantum jump in our understanding, but we have to be patient because we have a whole world and the whole world, everyone’s not on the same consciousness level and we expect that everyone gets it, but that’s not okay because we have to be much more patient and go to our heart and be loving of everyone’s journey.
Okay. So each journey is sacred and, and if you haven’t understood that, that’s okay. I have people are just really busy with their body and that’s good. Like that’s also good. That’s a body. That’s a temple of your soul that you come and you [00:20:00] incarnate in his body. It’s meant to be taken care of.
So I already think it’s amazing, like almost an amazing step when people start to do that. Because in my work as a nurse, I saw people so unconscious. But they didn’t take care of any aspect of themselves. They just lived their life kind of unconsciously and that’s how it was when I was young, by the way, because there was not so much light on the planet.
It was much darker and denser. And so people were just very asleep. So I, I really have compassion for all of humanity and wherever you are, it’s okay. That’s where you’re meant to be. We’re all going to get there.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yeah, that’s important. It’s important to point out because I even fall into that, perception where it’s like, come on, how come you don’t realize this? And then I’m disappointed and upset when people don’t get it because I get it. It’s a difficult, but necessary lesson to recognize that not everyone gets it.
is [00:21:00] supposed to get it or is going to get it when you’re delivering it but that you’re put there to deliver it because there is someone who does get it and they need you to be there to say it.
Cathleen Beerkens: Yeah. So when I was looking at the reviews of my book, So there was one lady that said, I’m sure this is really important, but I just don’t understand it. And I love that, that she was honest. It’s okay.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yes. And I’ve had similar experiences where I’ve had some people kind of be really negative because they don’t get it. And then others say, you know, this is just a little bit more complex than I thought it was going to be. And maybe it’s not for me, but I appreciate that it’s so unique. And it’s like, thank you.
Okay. Yeah.
Cathleen Beerkens: So I think just to accept that is the best thing and also not to have expectations. So when I look at, I think one of our big problems right now on the planet is that everyone’s expecting something and has certain belief systems and they want to be right and are right about something. Yeah. [00:22:00] And I think they just want to be seen.
So the truth is, for me, it’s a sign that we have a lot of healing work to do because people need these injuries for eons, not being seen, heard, and loved, and loved themselves. They didn’t know. So that’s the work in my opinion, and I think many of us are here to help people one on one to do that work.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yes. And I think that’s one of the values of DreamWork for me is that it puts that agency in each person’s hand to really access the parts of themselves that they’ve been disconnected from. And to say, look, you don’t have to go outside of yourself to get these answers. They actually lie within you.
You just have to create the space and take the effort and the time to listen.
Cathleen Beerkens: And listening is not easy. I train health coaches, so at a high level. So that’s the biggest thing that a lot of us have never been listened to. So we don’t even [00:23:00] know how to listen. It’s difficult. You know, if your basic needs as a human being are that you have not been listened to or seen, then it’s very hard for you to do that.
So we have to heal that in ourselves. And I think that’s a big job. But I do believe that many are healing. And the healing is going faster right now.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Now you had mentioned that you had a dream experience that you’d like to share. Yes.
Cathleen Beerkens: was, I was laughing because we had talked about that. Yeah. So dreams are powerful because, well, one thing I can say as a nurse that when I used to work the night shift at that time, the veil between, this universal field and us is very thin. So during the night in the dreams. We are much more connected and we can get a lot of information and symbols and things can happen in those dreams.
And they’re there to teach us and show us something. And I have been working as a nurse. [00:24:00] So a lot of times what I saw is people would die a lot at that in those hours because it was easier to leave. That veil was thinner. And I also saw funny things. Like I had a patient who, he was so funny.
He was older and he was always near death, but he had, he didn’t have a DNR, which means we had to resuscitate him, but he loved attention. So he would hold his breath at our, at our change of shift at seven in the morning all the time because he wanted us to reset, give him attention by resuscitating him.
So it was such a funny thing. And so we did that, I think 20 times. He loved us. It was really love. He wanted all of our attention. And during the course He got all of our attention. But then one day, of course, he just left. But that’s one thing that I do know that veil is thinner. What I experienced, I have dreams all the time.
They have guided me, but one, when my mother died and you know, that’s to lose your mother’s one of those things. It’s like, wow, that happened. And I [00:25:00] remember the morning she was leaving cause I felt my umbilical cord. Like a cut, like she was going to leave me on this planet. And my sister and I were, are very close.
Our family is very close, but my sister and I are next to each other. And we had that same dream the same night where we visited her in her hospital room. So we both had the same dream. And the thing is she was in the hospital room, but she wasn’t sick. And we both. She had that same dream and she was just like that.
And I was like, wow, that’s so incredible. And I also had another one where a teacher of mine that I talk about in the book was the kinesiologist died and she was my teacher for 20 some years. I learned so much from her about healing, everything, life. She was like a mother to me and she died suddenly and I was so sad, I missed her so much.
And one day she came in the dream and. I never did exactly what she did, but she used to say, [00:26:00] I can’t stay, but I’m giving you all my, when she was alive, I’m giving you a lot of knowledge and you’re going to stay and you’re going to bring the new earth and then this is for you, these things.
And that’s what she said when she was here, but in the dream, she did not say it. She was standing there smiling in her home that I always visit her in. And then she had a baton and she said, Open your hands or just communicated telepathically. I opened my hand and she handed me the baton and it was sort of like, now it’s your time, but I’ll always be with you.
That was so cool. So then I was not so sad. So that was a dream that was very important to me. But I’ve had so many. So I think the more conscious you are, the more you start to realize your dreams. And also you can get, I would get woken up when I was writing the book. I talk about that in the book too.
That I was woken up with information to connect [00:27:00] body, mind, spirit. And if I didn’t write it right then, and the problem was, it was kind of painful because three in the morning, you don’t want to write it. You’re so tired, but I would learn to write it or I would forget it. Seriously. It was. Yeah. So the,
Megan Mary – MeganMary: you don’t, if you don’t write it down within the first five minutes, you’ll forget 50 percent of it. And I mean, within a few minutes after that is completely gone, unless you train yourself to remember it. And I do the same thing. , I write in the dark without. Look, turn the light on or without looking and it makes for really messy writing, but I’ve trained myself to just write and take big spaces and write really big so that eventually, I can look back and capture it.
But, yeah, so much information comes from from the dreams and in that space in between sleeping and waking. just get all kinds of information in there. And I, I feel like that’s really, like you [00:28:00] said, not only where it’s thinnest, but where we’re most open to receiving that information because we don’t have the judgment brain turned on.
So we’re just in the receiving brain mode and it’s really because of the brainwave states, but it allows us to really be vessels for that information without rejecting it instantly, like the waking mind would.
Cathleen Beerkens: yeah, it’s so true. And it’s also right now with all the light coming in, with all the solar flares, with all the changes on the planet, many people are not sleeping very well and many are being woken up in the middle of night. And as long as you know, that’s part of the awakening, you can accept it, but it’s different because we were used to sleeping at all night and we thought we had to.
And I even teach as a health coach, how important sleep is, but it’s just right now, it’s just such a change. And everything’s shifting in us. So, that space is so vital for [00:29:00] our development and our awakening.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: yes, there is a lot happening Celestially and I keep track of it. I have an Aurora app and I’m constantly tracking the geomagnetic and the solar flares and this year, I mean, obviously we’re in a peak of the solar cycle, so it’s going to be happening for the next couple years. But the, the flares have been exceptionally strong in just this.
Last couple months, I actually saw the Aurora for the first time in May of this year, which was a just out of body experience. And I can’t wait for it to happen again. So, yes, I mean, there’s a lot going on and it’s exciting. It’s a trying time, but it’s a time of change that I think, like you said, is really leading us in a positive direction.
Cathleen Beerkens: We just have to be sticking together. We have to work and we’re going to go into that age of Aquarius soon really strongly. And that’s the time of [00:30:00] connecting with like minded people, groups, and more and more people will learn that they are connected and they aren’t separate and it’s nice to work together.
Yeah. And we can do it in a very loving way, not maybe the old ways where there’s someone telling everybody what to do. That’s, that’s outdated. Right? So we’re going to work more feminine, I would say.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yes, and that’s the whole reason that this podcast was started, was really to create that space and to allow people all over the world to hear these conversations to help them on their journey. So tell everyone where they can get your book and where they can find you
Cathleen Beerkens: Sure. It’s my book, Your Creator Matrix. You can see it. You said to put it in front of me. There we go. And my sister did 13 beautiful portraits, which are magic realism. And every portrait has a book, which. is about taking, being the creator and taking [00:31:00] responsibility for your life on all of those dimensions.
So I think the pictures give a lot of light and hope to people who read it and, and they can always get them. They’re amazing. But the book is on Amazon. You can order it. It’s also obviously book reads and there’s, you can find it about it on book reads and all of the places that are normal.
I’m in Europe, so we have Amazon. nl and we have Amazon. com and yeah, so they’re a bit different, but if you live in Europe and you’re listening to this you get it through Amazon. nl and Amazon. com in the United States and that area.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Awesome. All right. Well, I will put the link in the show notes as well. And yes, thank you so much for being here, Cathleen. I really enjoy your conversation and yes, I really appreciate it.
Cathleen Beerkens: Thank you, Megan. Lovely to be here.
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Kris Ashley: Women’s Dream Enlightenment Guest Recording Session
[00:00:00] You’re listening to Women’s Dream Enlightenment. Dream decoding, deep discussions, and spiritual stories of self discovery to inspire your personal enlightened journey. I’m your host, Megan Mary, founder of Women’s Dream Analysis. Let’s bring in the light.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Welcome. Today we have Kris Ashley. Kris Ashley is a dynamic coach, author, speaker, podcast host, and television host with a passion for personal development, spirituality, and science. She has spent over two decades immersed in the research and teachings she shares. In 2022, she published her first book, Change Your Mind to Change Your [00:01:00] Reality, which received endorsements from spiritual and self help heavyweights Michael Beckwith, Marcy Shimoff, Bob Dole, John Gray, and Anita Morjani. Today, Kris is a regular panelist at personal development events with the Los Angeles Tribune and is the director and lead trainer of their Leadership Academy. She is also the host of the television show Beyond Reality on the Ethereal Network. Welcome Kris.
Kris Ashley: Thank you so much for having me, Megan. I’m really excited to be here.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yes, this is a wonderful exchange because I was just a host on your podcast and I love really just doing these, these guest exchanges. It’s so much fun.
Kris Ashley: It’s really fun, and I was just telling you before we went on air, you completely changed the way that I interpret dreams now, the way you interpreted my dreams, so I was very blown away by the work you do.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Ah, wonderful. [00:02:00] Well, I will put a link to that in the show notes so everybody can listen to that episode as well. So the first question I’m going to ask is the one that I start with everybody. And that is, what does enlightenment mean to you?
Kris Ashley: Yeah, you know, you said that you were going to ask me that about a minute ago, so I’ve had about a minute to think about it, and the first thing that popped into my head was knowledge, because I’m a truth seeker. And I’ve been a truth seeker since 2002, which is funny because we had a little blip where you said something 2002 instead of 2022.
And I was thinking, I was like, oh, wow. That, that year is so significant to me. So you somehow intuited it. But I’ve been a seeker of knowledge ever since I had a spiritual awakening. And to me, enlightenment is that knowledge, but not just like book knowledge, but also embodying that knowledge and. [00:03:00] For me, it’s been learning about the higher realms and the other side of the veil and my soul purpose here and all of the things that it encompasses., and I think that that’s as close as we can get to enlightenment in our human body is really understanding that we’re, we’re vast and expansive and interdimensional.
And we’re so much more than this meat suit that we have on and that we’re all connected to each other.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yes, that knowledge of the worldliness, the expansiveness, the vastness of our existence and of the universe is definitely what I think of as enlightenment. It’s not really an end point. It’s a journey.
Kris Ashley: Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I view Earth life as a school and it’s one of many schools. And when we leave this incarnation, we go on to the next one. And, and I think it’s far from the end point. I think it’s just one [00:04:00] little. One little grade one little level.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yes. So I’d like to share with the listeners today, your spiritual journey on the show. We always have other women come on and talk about their stories of spiritual awakening and what led to their unique experience. So tell me about yours and where it began.
Kris Ashley: Yeah, absolutely. So my journey began in a place that you’ve probably had other guests also say, and that is my own trauma. So when I was 12, I was sexually abused by a family member. And I had this really big, tight knit, extended Italian family. Like, if you’ve ever seen my Big Fat Greek Wedding, we were like the Italian version of that.
Everyone’s big and loud and in each other’s faces, and we would sing anytime we were around each other. And the sexual abuse went on for four years. And when this big, tight knit family found out what happened many of them disowned me. [00:05:00] And people who had been like second mothers to me were writing me letters and leaving me voicemails telling me they didn’t love me anymore and I wasn’t their family anymore.
And as you can imagine, this left me with a lot of low vibration emotions, like anger and guilt and shame that as a young adolescent, I didn’t know how to cope with. You know, most adults don’t know how to cope with those types of emotions. And so I was in this downward spiral. I was, I turned to drugs, I was cutting, I was getting in trouble in school, I was in a really dark place.
And then my world totally changed when someone handed me a book. And what this book did is it showed me that there were other ways of thinking and being and kind of processing life on earth and that there’s so much more going on than what our eyes can see than we’re aware of. And I remember turning the pages and it was just like, it just felt like truth.
And it was kind of like a sleeper agent, right? Like something inside of [00:06:00] me just woke up. And when I finished that book, I started reaching for more and I just became insatiable. I started devouring every metaphysical, spiritual, new age, personal development book I could get my hands on. I started going to retreats.
I found teachers to study under. I was doing all these healing modalities. I was really doing the hard inner work, but I thought I was just, unlocking these mysteries of the universe that no one knew about, right? And this all, this all started in 2002, when someone handed me that book. And my life did a 180.
I was starting to manifest things. I was really changing my perspective, changing my mind about the nature of reality. But the other part of my story is as my life was starting to change, my mother started to get worse because her family had been ripped down the seams and she didn’t have these healing modalities in books and teachers that I did.
And so it manifested as physical illness for her. She got cancer. She got [00:07:00] a bunch of other really serious illnesses, but she also got a bunch of really bizarre afflictions that her doctors like had no idea. And so they did what they do. They gave her pills and then they give her pills for the side effects of those pills.
They’re just kind of throwing everything at the wall, hoping something would stick. And at the height of it, she was on a fentanyl patch. She was on 11 different pills, including Dilaudid, which is another narcotic. And she would fall down all the time, she would nod off at the dinner table, she would forget conversations we had the day prior, she slept for all but a few hours a daylight.
And that lasted almost 15 years. And I had this compounded guilt that I had destroyed my family and broken my mother. But I believe everything happens for a reason. And I realized that my mother was my biggest teacher because for every step that she took deeper into depression and illness and victimization, I climbed in the other [00:08:00] direction out of that dark tunnel because I was seeing firsthand, right in front of my face, what happens to a human body and spirit when we make that choice, because it’s always a choice.
And then I was seeing what was happening to my own life as I was simultaneously on this other path, right? And, I was seeing my world change. And so I made myself a promise, and it’s a promise I’ve kept to this day, that I would always do everything I could to heal physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, and I would always prioritize my health in those categories.
And I’m still reading a book a week, and like, I’m still going to every retreat, I buy every course, cause the learning never stops, you know, I’ve already been talking about knowledge, and Eventually I wanted to give back after a couple decades and took a life coach training with Mary Morrissey, who’s wonderful and wrote my book, started my podcast, started my coaching company.
And now I’m just on this other path and it’s really [00:09:00] beautiful.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: That’s an amazing journey that you’ve been on and it’s not unlike a lot. Yeah. Like you said, a lot of Stories that I’ve heard, a lot of women in particular working in this space, we are all wounded healers, essentially. We’ve all had something that we’ve gone through that has forced us to look within and to realize that we are the ones in charge of our health and that our health isn’t just our medical bodily health.
That a lot of our medical bodily symptoms manifest because of our spiritual health and our emotional health from traumas and from held energies and emotions and patterns and experiences. And that it’s really up to us to take that initiative to [00:10:00] start to do that healing beyond the traditional, here’s a pill for that and then another pill for that pill.
Kris Ashley: Yeah, I think that you, a lot of people get to a point where they’re like, I have like a crossroads, right? Like I can either reinvent myself and heal and forgive and get better, or it can fall into this resentment and this illness and this blame and this victimization and you know, that’s not a life, right?
And I think so many people are in the healing arts because it takes going into the darkness to like really see that much light. And when you’ve gone through it, you’re like, I don’t want other people to suffer for decades like I did, right? You’re like, hey, let me show you what took me so long to learn so that maybe you have an easier time of it.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Absolutely. And or walk with you in the darkness, right? Which is what I always say, [00:11:00] because the dream world is that other side and it’s that other side that a lot of people. I don’t know how or don’t want to access because they’re afraid and many times they just need someone who’s been there and someone who can walk between those worlds to accompany them until they can do it themselves.
Kris Ashley: Yeah, absolutely.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: So one of the things I really. I’m fascinated by myself and then I’d love to talk a little bit more about on the show today is quantum physics and quantum healing and all of the aspects of the quantum. So tell me how that is involved in your work and how that’s influenced your journey.
Yeah.
Kris Ashley: Yeah, I love geeking out about it. And one of the things I really love to do, I do it in my book, I do it on my podcast, is To back all this spirituality up with science and the personal development [00:12:00] of a science. And I think we are living in such an exciting time because science is finally saying what mystics and spiritual teachings have been saying for eons, right?
Whether it’s epigenetics or neuroscience or quantum physics and quantum physics is the scientific explanation for a lot of spirituality for a lot of what we talk about with the law of attraction or this interconnectedness. So it’s such a great way to teach the work too, because Sometimes spirituality can be off putting depending on someone’s background, if they come from some sort of religious background or some sort of belief system.
And it’s kind of that common ground that everyone can get behind. And also it can get those more left brain people too. So, I mean, there’s so many aspects to quantum physics. I guess the first one that jumps out is that quantum physics says that, you know, there’s the many world theories that says, there’s [00:13:00] infinite number of timelines and spaces that are happening at the exact same moment as ours.
And all possibilities exist in this cloud, in this realm. And they exist there until you choose, right? When you make a choice, that timeline kind of opens up before you. And we talk about that in spirituality all the time. And, there’s entanglement that talks about how we’re all connected and how one particle can influence another one that’s light years and light years and light years away, instantaneous, without a second between them.
And. You know, I mean, like pick your poison, pick which way you want to go, because it’s so fascinating because it’s like all these things that we’re saying are true and provable and we just live in this incredible world. There’s there’s this statistic I love that says the human eye can only see 0.
0035 I think percent [00:14:00] of the visible light spectrum. So 99 percent of our world is invisible to us. There’s so much more going on than when, but we’re aware of, and it’s so exciting to explore. Okay.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yes, I love that. And on the same path, there’s Tons of frequencies that we cannot hear as well. So, and this has proven both of the things, and so when we consider those things, Just like Wi Fi, everybody knows it exists, but you can’t see it, and everybody uses it, and it’s just an assumed thing. But, yet, there is such doubt about so many other things.
And, as we’re sitting here today, it is the full moon, harvest moon, super moon, lunar eclipse, and we have had X class flares. All week, there’s a lot going on celestially, a lot of electromagnetic [00:15:00] frequencies coming down to us. And there is a lot of interaction going on there that a lot of people might also dismiss.
They can see that. Oh, yes, we can see this on TV. We can see it’s happening. Oh, isn’t that interesting. But I think that in everyday life, there’s a real separation between the celestial influence in our spiritual life and our connection to the spiritual realm and the interdimensionality of the galaxies and all of that.
I think that’s really dismissed in a way, and we can scientifically quantify it, but where spirituality and science meet. Is yet to be determined.
Kris Ashley: absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, it’s, it’s interesting because, when you look back at history, no one believed in gravity or no one believes in electricity or whatever it was until it was really proven and harnessed and the awakened [00:16:00] community knows these forces exist. Of course they exist.
Right. And countless, countless people have had interactions with them, whether it’s even, people who have had past life experiences, or people who have had NDEs, or people who have done dream work, or energy healing so we all know what’s out there, I feel like, People are starting to wake up, back in 2002 when I had an awakening, like I couldn’t find other people to talk about this kind of stuff with.
And now it’s everywhere, right? Like, Law of Attraction is like a hashtag on Instagram that has who knows how many hits on it, right? So I do feel like people are starting to wake up and there’s I don’t know I just I’m just thinking like the medical community even like I just went through fertility treatments Not that long ago and the clinic was like you should get acupuncture that was part of their treatment.
So it’s slowly starting But I think the world is waking up and I think 2020 had something to do with it too. Right. People were home and [00:17:00] starting to realize like, wait, it was like a forced pause and it was like, okay, wait, there’s more to life than just work, eat, sleep, entertainment.
Money like, oh yeah, there’s this connection with nature and there’s this connection with each other and we can, we can go within and find stillness and or be in community. So I think it’s happening slowly, but surely, but it’s definitely, the rest of us that have been on this journey for a while are just kind of sitting back watching like, okay,
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yeah, so it was definitely a wake up call and it was also, like you said, an opportunity. It’s interesting to see what people did with that space people were consuming content.
Books and learning and creating and, really doing things that they would never have had the opportunity to do that were really expansive activities. I think that was a chance for a lot of people who were part of that ascension that. Expansion that’s happening and not everybody can [00:18:00] be part of it that everybody wants to be part of it.
But there are a lot of people who are having that awakening that are part of it. And that was just maybe 1 of those times that. The earth cooperated with us to say, okay, we’re just going to destabilize everything for a little bit, and it’s not going to be easy, but you’ll see that there’s going to be a lot of opportunity in it, right?
There’s like a silver lining.
Kris Ashley: Totally. I mean, I, I say the same thing all the time. I took every course I could because everything went virtual. I wrote my book. But other people had a really hard time and that’s okay. Right? Like we’re not here to shame anyone. And, and you made a good point when you said, you know, not everyone is going to be on that spiritual awakening.
Like there’s that whole idea of like 5d and 3d earth splitting. And it doesn’t mean that anyone’s left behind or people are less than or anything, like people are on their own soul evolution and they recycle back into, maybe another incarnation [00:19:00] here and another 3d space and it’s, it’s fine.
And there’s, millions of souls on the path ahead of you. There’s millions of souls on the path behind you. Your timing is perfect and it’s all just part of it.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yes. It all happens when it’s supposed to.
Kris Ashley: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: The universe has its own, I would say timeline, but it’s not really, it’s not a timeline because there is no timeline.
Kris Ashley: Yeah. Right. That’s when it gets trippy.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yeah, time and space don’t really exist.
Kris Ashley: It’s all happening right now.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yes. So on your podcast, I had the opportunity to interpret one of your dreams and I love to integrate the discussion of dreams on my show and talk about how that’s been influential, if at all, for you on your journey because a lot of people have very much had profound experiences, whether they be lucid experiences or [00:20:00] premonitions or visitations.
And for me, that was really the gateway for my awakening. So did you find that dreams played a role in yours as well?
Kris Ashley: Yeah, and I think it was you actually who told me the other day, you’re like, you’re clairvoyant and after our call, and I’ve been thinking about that ever since, but I, for as long as I can remember, I’ll have a dream about someone who I haven’t seen in like years and the next day they’ll call me or I’ll find out that they had a baby or got married or some big life event.
And I lost my, my heart dog and my dad within the last like year and a half, and I have visitation dreams all the time. And I, I mean, they’re not like dreams, right? It’s a visitation. Like I know my dad is dead in them. And We’ll just be sitting and talking and I’ll just look at him and just be like, God, I miss you so much.
And he’ll be like, I know you do, but I’m going to keep dropping in from time to time. And he’ll give me a big hug. And like, we have these [00:21:00] conversations like that. And I have them somewhat often. And I actually had like a real visitation from him. It was like, it was one of the coolest experiences ever. I get sleep paralysis and I’ve had it, I’ve had it forever.
Maybe you have some spiritual thought on that, but I’ve always gotten it and it always happens. When I’m falling asleep and it used to like really scare me. And sometimes it still does kind of freak me out. Cause it’s that idea of like, I’m awake, but I can’t move. But I had this crazy experience where I was in sleep paralysis and I had this dog, like sniffing my face.
And at first I was so annoyed. I was like, ah, Shane, my husband, let our dog bully in the room. And I told him I was going to take a nap and why is he in here? And I realized it wasn’t woolly. And then I realized it was my parents, old dog Casey. And then I looked on the floor and it was my old dog soda, running around.
And then I looked next to me in the bed and my dad was right there. And he was like, hi. I got the impression that he had been trying to like break through. And it was [00:22:00] such a, him thing. He was like, brought the dogs, right? We’re animal lovers. I can just see him being like, come on guys, let’s go visit her.
So I’ve had a lot of really kind of clairvoyant moments and dreams and yeah, and it’s interesting. Like I, I never really thought about it much as something like unique until I was talking to you actually.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yes, I mean, we all have all of those clear senses, right? We just need to activate them. Many times when we start paying attention to our dreams, that can be the catalyst for us to start, not just. receiving information, but sensing it in our waking life, seeing the synchronicities and the subtle symbolism in things in our waking life.
Once we start looking at it in the dream, all of a sudden we go, Oh, isn’t it weird that, and we’re still so prone to dismiss [00:23:00] it. Nevertheless, very significant and we have to pay attention. So, I was editing my second book this morning, and there I am writing my beat sheet, and I get to September 17th. I’m like, isn’t that funny that that’s today? No, it’s not just a coincidence and, and even I can find myself brushing it off. Yeah, of course, because you’re writing and it’s based in September and that’s just a coincidence, but it’s not. All of those things that we notice that we think, Oh, isn’t that funny?
Isn’t that weird? Those are the little breadcrumbs from the universe pushing us along our way.
Kris Ashley: So what do you think that breadcrumb was trying to tell you? Like, little signs like that. Like, what’s, what’s the significance of that? Is it that you’re on the right path? You’re doing things at the right time? Like, what is it?[00:24:00]
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yeah. Yes, and it’s the same when I see the, people call them angel numbers, but really just numerologically with the time, because you can look at the clock at any time, but if you happen to start seeing them multiple times throughout the day, certain days I do, and it’s always, oh, it’s 1111, it’s 333, it’s 555, you know, you just happen to just always see that throughout the day.
That’s not a coincidence either.
Kris Ashley: You know, what’s funny about that? I mentioned my dog had died. Since the day she died, twice a day, every day, without fail, for almost two years, I’ve seen 555.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Thanks.
Kris Ashley: And I finally talked to a pet communicator about it. She’s like, oh yeah, it’s her. But yeah, no, totally, totally the numbers for sure.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yes. So, I just love looking into my dreams and looking for those things [00:25:00] also throughout my daily life. Just, I think being cognizant of it allows more in. The more that you kind of go, yeah, okay, and you acknowledge it, the more, yeah. You get the more it just keeps coming and coming and coming and I, I find it supportive and comforting.
Kris Ashley: You know what’s been popping up for me the last week too is smells. And smells that remind me of my dad. And it’s like, Are you there, dad. And that’s kind of a new thing. That’s kind of come on.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Now that’s another one of the clair senses is being able to smell something that you associate with someone or that has passed on for sure. Or even being able to smell something that’s associated with. [00:26:00] If you’re picking up someone else’s energy, or you’re doing a reading or whatever it might be. So that’s called clairalience .
And so the, the integration of the regular senses, so clairaudience being able to hear something, but then being able to hear from the beyond, being able to smell something, being able to smell from the beyond, being able to see something, but being able to see something from the beyond, all of those things are part of that.
Clairsense activation, really.
Kris Ashley: Yeah. It’s interesting that you said like dreams can be the kind of portal to turn that on and as you tap into it, other things awaken. So no, honestly, I feel like it was you saying that I was like, Oh, okay. And now it’s in my head and now other things are happening. So it’s kind of a cool journey. It’s kind of fun to see what else happens.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yes. I love that. Have you been writing down your [00:27:00] dreams since the episode?
Kris Ashley: I haven’t had a dream since the episode, actually. Yeah, no, it’s interesting. I haven’t, but I, I always, yeah, I always write down my dreams.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yeah. The full moon for me is high volume dream time.
Kris Ashley: Really?
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yes. And just as, as women, we cycle, but we also are so affected by the cycle of the moon and we don’t really notice that until we start paying attention. So eventually I’m going to produce a dream journal that actually allows you to track the moon phase at the same time, because I think it’s so fascinating to the parallels that happen there.
Kris Ashley: Yeah, that’s super cool.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: So tell me a little bit about your book, Change Your Mind to Change Your Reality. I love the title.
Kris Ashley: Thank you. Yeah, so it’s kind a little bit like it sounds , when we [00:28:00] change the way that we look at things, when we change our perspective, entire worlds can open up before us. And, part of Changing your perspective is a lot of what we’ve already talked about where there’s so much more going on than what we’re aware of, right?
And I back it all up with quantum physics and all these different stories. So it’s whether we’re talking about soul contracts or whether we’re talking about being able to heal yourself, right? Or heal relationships. If you can change the way you think about pain or illness or the things you’ve gone through, then your story changes and your life can completely change too.
And I also talk a lot about the law of attraction and, and give little journaling exercises and to help people get really clear on their vision and then help them navigate that gap between where they are now and what their dream life looks like and, and removing the things that block all of that from [00:29:00] working,
things like your belief system that you’ve had since childhood or holding on to grudges, there’s a whole chapter dedicated to forgiveness holding on to repressed emotions, you know, just having a specific story, being in a victim mindset. It’s really completely transforming your life.
And a lot of it is rooted in the journey that I went on to. So there’s a lot of like personal little anecdotes sprinkled throughout too.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: I love that. That’s really what makes it feel so much more accessible to people. It’s when you really tell your own personal story, which is, which is why we podcast, right? So that we can really deliver that conversation that feels like it’s happening in a vacuum and allows the audience to just be a fly on the wall in our personal, very deep conversation about all of these ethereal concepts.
So it’s important to. [00:30:00] Allow space for that vulnerability, because in that authentic ness of sharing your very personal story, that’s where people connect and resonate with you and really start to feel, one, not so alone on their journey, but two, validated in their experience.
Kris Ashley: Absolutely. And you’re right, it happens in a vacuum. You know, people, especially with trauma, people don’t want to talk about it, but sometimes they don’t even know to talk about it. Like I think back on my own self, when I was 12, 13, 14, 15, I was really angry. And I had all of these feelings of guilt and anger and all these things and depression.
But I didn’t tie it back to like, oh, it’s because I went through this thing. You know what I mean? Like, it took a long time you open up, any, psychology textbook and it’s like trauma victim PTSD [00:31:00] 101, like every symptom I had, but , I didn’t know that.
I thought I was just alone and I didn’t understand what I was feeling. So I think the same thing goes with, with spiritual awakenings too. The more we can talk about it. And I think you’re absolutely right in being vulnerable because then you’re authentic and people connect with you.
When you’re, not authentic, people can sniff that out. Right. And we don’t need any more fakeness in this world. We need authentic healers and people living from their heart. Right. That’s, that’s what this world needs.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yes, absolutely. Because when you step into the path as a healer, you have to let go of everything you thought you were anyway.
Kris Ashley: Hmm.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Or you cannot embody that path truly. You cannot be truly in alignment if you’re trying to be something. You have to let it all go and become the vessel for the message, which is really the process of that [00:32:00] spiritual awakening.
It’s really what allows. You to become the messenger.
Kris Ashley: I love that. Yeah. You’re just a channel for it. Right.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yes. Yes.
Kris Ashley: that’s a great way to put it.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: the only way it can happen.
Kris Ashley: Yeah, you have to be of service, right? It has to be greater than you. Because people can sniff that out too, right? If you’ve ever been to like a talk or listened to a podcast or seen a speaker and they’re just up there because it’s like an ego thing versus like really wanting to be in service of the audience.
I can totally feel that.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yes. Yes. And so at some point that message isn’t gonna resonate with people and isn’t going to be received because it’s not coming from a place of authenticity. So energetically, it’s. on a different wavelength, let’s say, and it’s not really going to have the power that something else [00:33:00] would that was coming straight from the heart and that was really genuine.
Kris Ashley: Yeah, absolutely. And I think that just takes us full circle to, a lot of people who are on this path have walked through the fire themselves and they can just speak to it on a different kind of level.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yes, absolutely. Well, I appreciate you coming on and telling your story and sharing your book and sharing what you do so that yet another story can be out there for other women to really identify with and hopefully the message resonates with them as well. And if people would like to find you, where can they find you out in the ethers?
Kris Ashley: Yeah. Thanks for giving me the opportunity. So Krisashley. net is my website and change your mind with Kris is my handle everywhere. I’m on YouTube, I’m on Instagram, I’m on Tik Tok. Change your mind with Kris [00:34:00] Ashley is the podcast beyond reality is the TV show that’s going to be launching on the ethereal network and change your mind to change your reality is my book.
It’s available in paperback, ebook, audio book, anywhere you get your books.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Excellent. I love having it in all different formats. That was definitely one of my requirements for mine because people need to be able to receive it in whatever way they prefer. So
Kris Ashley: Did you record your own audio?
Megan Mary – MeganMary: I did not. I had an amazing award winning British narrator, Pearl Hewitt. I wasn’t going to attempt to do 13 different characters, a talking cat and a British turtle.
I’m just not an actress. So,
Kris Ashley: Oh, that’s great. Cause your book is a fiction book.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: yes.
Kris Ashley: Okay. That’s fair. That’s cool. You got a British person to do it. I recorded mine and it was super fun to be in the recording studio and it was, that was a fun experience by itself.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yes. Yes. For my nonfiction, I will. But for this time, I had to leave it to the [00:35:00] pros.
Kris Ashley: yeah, yeah. That makes sense for fiction. For sure.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yes. Well, thank you so much again for being here, and I will put all of your links in the show notes as well so that people can come find you.
Kris Ashley: Thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate your time.
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