
Women’s Dream Enlightenment | Episode 76
Meet Pamela Downes — a spiritual leader, channel for the Great Council of Light, and visionary founder of Spirit Calling. After 25 years as a successful entrepreneur, Pamela stepped fully into her soul calling: activating higher consciousness and guiding people to embody their light. Her meditations and live transmissions inspire thousands to trust their awakening and remember why they’re here.
In episode of Women’s Dream Enlightenment, Pamela shares her journey from a successful entrepreneur to embracing her higher calling and activating higher consciousness. Learn about her meditations and live transmissions that inspire thousands.
Discover what enlightenment means to her, experiences she’s had with channeling, and valuable insights about spirituality, frequency, and embodying one’s purpose.
She also offers sage advice for those on their own spiritual journey.
Embodying Enlightenment
Kicking off our discussion, Pamela shared her insights on enlightenment, framing it not as a static state but as a frequency and embodiment. It’s about embodying spirit and allowing it to guide your everyday actions, thoughts, and intentions. Pamela emphasized evolving continually into the best version of oneself, highlighting the dynamic nature of enlightenment.
Spirit Calling: The Journey Begins
Pamela’s story is a testament to the power of divine inspiration and inner trust. In a profound middle-of-the-night moment in 2020, Pamela received the call to create “Spirit Calling.” Despite her initial skepticism about building a ‘portal’ rather than a conventional website, she surrendered to the spiritual guidance she received. Her willingness to push through uncertainty and build a community reflects the courage inherent in true spiritual leadership.
Bridging Business and Spirituality
Both Pamela and I share a background in branding and digital marketing, which naturally raised the question: Can one truly separate the business world from the spiritual? Pamela believes the two are meant to intertwine, as this integration can lead to profound personal and collective growth. Listening to Pamela recount her journey through intuitive leaps and the eventual decision to sell her marketing firm, one sees how following one’s passion can indeed carve new paths toward higher consciousness.
Awakening the Soul
Our conversation took a deeper turn as we explored Pamela’s spiritual awakening, which involved powerful experiences with plant medicine and the opening of her psychic abilities. Through these journeys, she cultivated a deeper connection with her guides and now channels profound teachings from the Great Council of Light. Pamela’s experience highlights the importance of facing past traumas and embracing the guidance available through higher frequencies.
Challenges and Community Support
Throughout our chat, Pamela urged the importance of community—spaces where individuals embarking on their spiritual journeys can find support and understanding. She emphasized the validity of one’s struggles and the necessity of having grace with oneself. Aligning with our best intentions while navigating life’s challenges is essential in maintaining our personal frequency and contributing positively to the world.
The Importance of Inner Knowing
Amidst trials and uncertainties, Pamela reminds us to lean into the support of our spiritual guides and the metaphysical energies around us. Embracing this support system can empower us to move through life’s challenges with strength and grace. As she rightly points out, it’s about recognizing our power to shape reality with every choice we make—a continuous dance between love and fear.
Closing this episode, Pamela left us with the encouraging reminder that we are never alone, supported both by our guides and the communities we build around us. Her story is a beautiful example of living courageously and embodying one’s truth.
Thank you all for joining us on this episode of Women’s Dream Enlightenment. I invite you to continue exploring your own spiritual journey, and if you have a story to share, please reach out to me. Until next time, may your dreams guide you to enlightenment.
If you enjoyed our discussion and are interested in more spiritual insights, I invite you to explore my international bestselling metaphysical trilogy, Witches of Maple Hollow.
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Activating Higher Consciousness with Pamela Downes
[00:00:00] You’re listening to Women’s Dream Enlightenment. Dream decoding deep discussions and stories of spiritual awakening to inspire your personal enlightened journey. I’m your host, Megan Mary, international bestselling metaphysical author. And founder of Inner Realms Publishing. Let’s bring in the light.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Welcome. Today we have Pamela Downes. She is a spiritual leader channel for the great Council of Light and visionary, founder of Spirit calling. After 25 years as a successful entrepreneur, Pamela stepped fully into her soul, calling, activating higher consciousness, and guiding people to embody their light.
Her podcast, meditations and live transmissions [00:01:00] inspire thousands to trust their awakening and remember why they’re here. Welcome Pamela.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Well, thank you so much for having me. I’m excited to be here today.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yes.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Hmm.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Okay. Let’s get started with my first question, and that is,
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Let’s
Megan Mary – MeganMary: what does enlightenment mean to you?
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Enlightenment is one of those words that have a certain idea of what it means, right? Because it’s what they’ve heard. enlightenment to me is a frequency, it’s embodiment. It’s living and listening to your spirit and allowing it to be at the forefront of everything that you do.
So that’s walking your path every single day of your life. But it’s your thoughts, it’s your words, it’s your actions, it’s your intention, and I think basically showing up in the best version of yourself continually. And that’s always evolving. It’s changing always, [00:02:00] every moment, right?
Megan Mary – MeganMary: True enough? Yes.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Mm-hmm.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: And true words too.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Mm-hmm.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Embodying in thought and speech and action every day. And aligning with the calling, this is why the podcast is here.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Yeah, it’s really cool. It’s so many of us. I got the call to create spirit calling 2020. I woke up in the middle of the night and I heard spirit calling, calling. And by then I knew to put a notebook next to my bed. Now I have a recorder. I have my phone, I have all these devices, you know, depending on what I need. And over the course of a year, I, I was awakening to my channeling abilities. I was remembering myself. I was working with my guides and I had just done some really profound spiritual work that raised my frequency and allowed me to tap in in that way. But over the course of a year, I [00:03:00] kept hearing to build a community, to build a portal actually, and I’ve been a branding and marketing expert for my entire career, and I’m like, what is a portal?
Like, I couldn’t identify with that. I’m like, I know what a website is. I know what about, you know, all those things. I kept hearing that there’s gonna be a glass ceiling that breaks and people are going to stop in their tracks. They’re not gonna know who and what they are and what they’ve believed in.
Their world’s gonna be shifted in an instant, and they need a safe place to land. And, and my calling is just be myself and to be the witness to others that if you continually stretch yourself, lean in, push yourself into love, out of fear, you will continually expand your soul’s purpose and remember who you are. And I do that real time. In front of everyone. And I, I inspire people and I connect with people just through telling my story and showing up. And it’s [00:04:00] amazing. I mean, never knew that I would be doing this work. I never knew that this was what my future was going to be. now by the time this gets. I think I’ll have told my team, I’m selling my marketing and branding firm to my business partner and I’m stepping fully into this a hundred percent. Not that I haven’t been, but it’s hard to run two companies at the same time. So
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Oh, absolutely.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: when your passion’s like all on one side, so,
Megan Mary – MeganMary: I get that.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Mm-hmm. Yeah, a lot of people do. A lot of us do. Because we’ve been bridging both worlds
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yep.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: and now it’s go time. Totally. That’s embodiment.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yep. I understand. Yeah, I have a background, pretty similar 25 years in, in websites and digital marketing, so
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Yeah. You get it.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: very much understand that. I understand standing on the bridge and there’s a calling for that too.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Hmm.[00:05:00]
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Because I tried so hard to separate and I tried so hard to pick and you know, the spirit really wanted me to combine them.
It’s like, no, you can’t separate and you have to do both. And you’ll understand why when you start to do both.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: You don’t get it at the time,
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yeah.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: I felt like I kept saying, I’m doing all the things that I’m receiving. I’m leveraging my home equity line of credit to build all this stuff. My one asset after the recession, losing everything. I’m selling my house when you’re telling me to sell it because I know that.
The, the moment that I have to do it, ’cause it’ll take care of all the things I already, you know, did because you told me to do. And I’m like, why do I have to suffer and be in this branding and marketing firm? Like, because I needed to. ’cause I needed to, there was a reason, there’s something I’m building for someone else and it’s all gonna work out and her timing has to be a certain way.
We don’t know [00:06:00] the grand masterpiece. don’t know it all yet, but we just continually serve in our highest and best yeah. Yeah, that’s it. That’s all we can do. What is the choice? What’s the other choice? Me?
Megan Mary – MeganMary: we hold space. We agree to.
Follow the instructions without explanation.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. With that strong knowing.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yeah. And that’s really the challenge of anybody who’s going through that spiritual awakening and that calling, because you’re like, yeah, but I, I can’t do that. I don’t wanna do that, and here’s a million reasons why it’s not going to work.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Mm-hmm.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: And it’s like a leap of faith, but also surrender, but also trust.
It’s all those things.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Yeah, and I’ll tell you, embodiment has just been the word for the last two months, and know how many times I heard [00:07:00] from spiritualists? Well, you just gotta jump. You just gotta jump. You’re never going to be and have all the things in your spiritual business unless you release and jump. And I’m like, I, no, I do not.
I do not know that I, I know it in my soul that I will just make the leap one day. It is not upstream, it’s downstream. And I will know, and I will be guided and that’s when it’ll happen. And I feel like sometimes. You know, there’s an emotional intelligence. There’s a spiritual intelligence. If you’ve run a firm and been a CEO and had employees and led companies, like you have to use that intelligence too and understand how all those pieces work together.
Like you’re like, we’re like you’re saying. and that I think sometimes that piece is missing in the spiritual community with entrepreneurs.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yeah there’s a lot of people that are reaching out to help people in that transition and help people embrace their [00:08:00] gifts. So let’s go back a little bit and tell the audience how you started on your spiritual path and how you came to the great leap that you’re about to take.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Yeah, well it was not overnight and it was a journey as most of us have experienced, and it started with small steps and really. Figuring out what it was that I believed in. And that started, way back when I was younger and I was questioning religion and questioning all of the ways of being that were established for me. And I think, and I talk about this often, that we go and travel through decades of our life and seasons of our life, and as we journey into the different seasons of our life, we have more experience, we have more understanding, we have more self power. We understand what we want, what we don’t want.
And religion did not resonate. And I had children and I couldn’t bring it to them. And so I made some big choices that [00:09:00] kind of rattled my family members, they were so strong that I just couldn’t deny them. And through that one thing so many things opened up. My father died. I witnessed him succumbed to his alcoholism. I had empathy and forgiveness for how he showed up as. As my father when I was a kid. And were moments of like ahas, like understanding the law of attraction and finding Abraham Hicks and those little nuggets that were fed to me at exactly the precise time that I needed them. continually allowed me to. Explore to realize, to discern, to start to open to my Clairs then to be able to have the strong senses and the knowings and the hearing and the dreams and the downloads started and I had you know, this isn’t for everyone and everyone has a certain feeling about it. For me, it was what I was. guided to do, and I was handpicked [00:10:00] and put into a sacred, small, high conscious group of people who were doing this plant medicine. That opened everything up wide. there was a reason, because there was a timing that had to happen in order for me to be here now. Like it was, things need to happen now and this is the pathway for it. in 2020 I had just finished a week long ayahuasca journey and all my clairs open, I couldn’t, healed lots of past life trauma, this life trauma, all kinds of realizations and forgiveness. And at the end of that journey, I had a white light shoot through my third eye, fill my whole entire body up with vibration.
My teeth were buzzing. Everything was like, and I heard your psychic abilities have been enhanced. From this moment forward everything will be different, and that’s what happened. I started experiencing different frequencies and different. Beings in the frequencies. And I started raising my frequency and doing really deep soul work and releasing karma from past [00:11:00] life and the, you know, all of the things.
And through that work, my frequency was raising and I didn’t know it was a great council of light, but we were both working to have this bridge of communication and that started with me trying to channel their energies through me and trying to harmonize with my vocal chords and my physicality and I mean, it was a lot.
So do that a couple years. the downloads and the visions and the premonitions and the global visions that I had for our future grew stronger and stronger. That’s when I heard to create spirit calling and I built it and I launched it in January of 24. So we’ll be almost two years. But now, I was telling someone today I used to. Say I wanna touch a million souls. Like that was some big number. And where you are on your journey, it feels big. like you need to create a portal for humankind. Like what’s that really? Now [00:12:00] it’s repositioning myself, looking at the future. It’s a billion souls, a million’s already been done. Like, I’ve already reached people on podcasts and, know, through all my messages and my platforms and it’s incredible. it gets more exciting more lean in it’s turned into this incredible DNA light code activation energy transmission. I just got an upgrade while I was working with the guides for the last hour. So this new technology was put in last Wednesday and it just happened again. So it’s just upleveling to reach humanity where they’re at as they’re upleveling and it’s incredible. It’s just, it’s cool to witness this. So I think me. I don’t know, 15 years ago would look at me now and be like, what you’re doing? What? You know, we can’t look forward. We can look back, but
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yeah,
There’s [00:13:00] a lot of resonance in that explanation in the meandering journey that you went on
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Yeah. I.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: the, the progression of awareness and opening and remembering and all that, that I experienced. I I talk a lot about. A couple years ago being this major break, but of course there was a lot of other things that happened from the time I was a child that eventually, when I write the memoir, you’ll see it all in in perfect linear fashion, but there’s so many, there’s so many layers, right? And, and even today, as we’re recording it on the, on the 28th, there is some major, major magnetic schumann resonance. Lots of stuff coming in
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Yeah,
Megan Mary – MeganMary: today where I have just had to multiple times say, wait a minute, I gotta stop [00:14:00] everything. And I can feel like all of these, like old memories that are like coming up and being dissolved and all these things that I’m like, whoa, there is a shift happening right now.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Yeah. Your, your soul is releasing and clearing.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Mm-hmm. There’s, yeah, there’s so much, and every day more people are waking up. I think that everyone that was called to create a space for those people are, we really, are the guides. I’m not gonna say leaders ’cause we’re more just kind of walking each other
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Mm-hmm.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: it, but everybody who’s answered that call and created that space is helping so many, like you said.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Yeah, totally. And it’s our time.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Mm-hmm.
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Pamela – Spirit Calling: It’s it’s our time in so many ways. You know, so many cycles, nine years closing, one year starting divine reciprocity. So many things working in our favor. And it’s a beautiful thing to witness because our channel message every month for our community, and last month was honoring the different versions of yourself throughout your life.
They talk all and all about it and having empathy, compassion, love for seeing that you were able to show up exactly where you were at those moments in your life this month is about embodiment. No longer are we talking, watching, It is active, embodiment, living it, [00:17:00] putting it into practice, actually. Healing and living in a way where you are healing your frequency and raising your frequency and putting that frequency out into the world because the future is here already and it’s our job to align to it. But that’s exciting to see people in my community healing, receiving all these energy activations and hearing how they’re benefiting from it.
We’re in a new timeline.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Oh, absolutely.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: shifted so much. It’s just incredible to watch. I mean, August Lionsgate was profound. It was suffering and releasing and clearing and like it was incredible. And you, we all like surfaced on the other side of that new.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Mm-hmm.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: new, and if you didn’t experience it then, I’m sure that, that something is coming. But there’s so many that have, and it’s happening more and more quickly, very quickly for people in my community [00:18:00] and myself even, you know?
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yes. And one of the ways for me obviously is, is dream work. And I heard you mention dreams a little bit earlier. Of course I get downloads all the time, whatever you call them. But one of the ways is many times, streams, but also that liminal space in between waking and dreaming.
That seems to be where they jam it all in
Pamela – Spirit Calling: They do.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: yeah.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: so funny.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yeah.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: I’ll remember that. They’re like, no, no, no. Go write it down. I’m like, no, remember it? They’re like, go write it down. I’m like, okay. And the most beautiful title of a book is there, you know? And you’re like, you go look at it later and you’re like, oh my God. Oh my.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yep.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: It’s incredible. You know, so many things. Like I get, I get global updates all the time. Magnitude nine or greater, I don’t use those words. Earthquake with a [00:19:00] tsunami warning. And they told me all this. And right after that, the 8.8 happened with the tsunami warning.
I’m like, that’s not it. There’s, that’s not the one they’re talking about. They would’ve said that. They would’ve said that. They talked about the events that have happened over the last couple of months and they do that. People wonder. know, why do they do that? Because they teach about frequency and they tell you there’s things coming. They want you to be grounded, prepared. They don’t want you to be caught up in the wave of frequency that’s in the experiences that are being created for us. And primarily it.
You know, it’s a positive thing. It’s like a caring, loving parent, continually trying to teach us about love and frequency.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yeah, to hold the frequency throughout the turmoil, to not buy into the mind virus
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Mm-hmm.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: of all the chaos that is being pushed on us from the outside world. To distract us from [00:20:00] understanding that we’re actually living in a resonance chamber and that we actually can control our reality with our own frequency.
But when we get wrapped up in the other frequencies, they are frequency vacuums
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Yeah.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: and they take our frequencies from us and lower our vibration, and then we dwell in the doubt zone, which is where they want every.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Mm-hmm.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Everyone. Well, I say they, and I’m referring to two different people, but
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Yeah.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: different groups.
But there is, I think you know, opposing forces in that, in that way because there is the light in the dark, but there’s also this.
Ignorance being bliss and kind of people who get wrapped up in separation mentality and lower vibrations of fear and doubt. And it’s. [00:21:00] Almost easier to buy into that than it is to hold your own higher frequency
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Mm-hmm.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: that frequency requires trust and knowing and it’s hard to prove.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Yeah.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: So it’s hard to, yeah.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: and comfortable.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: That’s safe, but it’s comfortable. Yeah. It’s not even comfortable, it’s just, it’s just familiar.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Familiar is is a good word. Right,
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yeah.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: We were just talking about that on a podcast earlier today. somebody referred to it as they have like dust on them. Like, like in, they have like some sort of a magic spell on them and they’re not able to break out, and I’m like, well, yeah, you could explain it that
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Mm-hmm.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: I see behavior sometimes recently and I’m just like. I can’t even u use your discernment. Like you’re out in nature and the fresh air is the best thing for you, and they’re still, in [00:22:00] fear and that’s their comfortable spot as anything other than that is hard and challenging. Requires faith and trust and
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Mm-hmm.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: leaning in and all the things.
Yeah. But, times are changing. That’s what I say. Times are a change and shifts are coming.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yeah. And the call really is, I think to find that solace within yourself, whether it’s through meditation or journaling or.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Mm-hmm.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Just quiet, introspective time. Because when we do that, we find that center in ourselves that is very stable, that has all the knowing. When we connect to that, we’re like, why was I even questioning?
But then you’ll lose it, you know? And, and then, and then you’re back to questioning. But the more that you can connect to that, the [00:23:00] longer you can sustain that. Then it’s like, okay, none of that matters. All of that outside chaos.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: It changes ’cause you see it for what it is.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Mm-hmm.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Especially now, and when you see everyone fighting on social, like these unnecessary, actions, really, and the guides always say, you know, if you’re in a situation, just politely leave the room, politely, leave the conversation like honor and hold yourself in high regard.
Really treat yourself that way and know you are using discernment and you’re, you’re trying to approach your days, your experiences, all of the things with intention, that you actually get to do that. So you get to a point, I think, where you start witnessing yourself inside of spaces and places and with people and you honor what you’re hearing and then you flex a muscle of that and you continue to do it, and, and suddenly [00:24:00] you make changes in your life. But you have to get there, you have to have the experiences to get there.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yep. And that that viewing yourself is very, very much part of that experience where you’re shedding the ego and then you realize that you’re no longer yourself or who you thought you were. And then you start to see everybody a little bit differently and you get this thousand foot benevolent perspective.
I, that’s the best way I can describe
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Mm-hmm.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: you kind of, you understand both sides, and there is no longer right or wrong because everybody’s motivation is the same.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Mm-hmm.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: It’s really zen. It’s really interesting. Once you notice that and you’re like, oh, okay, yeah, I can’t say either way [00:25:00] here because. All of a sudden you see the entirety of consciousness.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Yeah, and you also see people’s wounds.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Mm-hmm.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Especially inside of a family and you see the interaction of family members and their wounds within each other. then you start to see, and this is often our as disruptors in our families and our physical families and our spiritual families. You start to see like how you’re so different and know, and, because you see, you see the wounds and it, sometimes it’s hard because you, you want someone to see their own and you want to help them so bad, but they can’t. And that’s why we have communities because we need to be able to and talk and, know, support and love on each other. [00:26:00] ’cause we’re not able to, we’re not able to share our realizations and, and all these things with sometimes our family members. You know, it’s interesting. That’s often the case.
That’s what I hear. I can’t talk to my husband about this. I can’t talk to my like, da da da. But you can come into the community you’ve got a whole group of people here are gonna be like, oh my God, I went through that. Or, I understand that. Or Here’s what I did. Or, let’s connect and talk later. And like, that’s so valuable. So many of us, including myself. we didn’t have anyone to talk to when we were on our, the beginning of our journey. We didn’t,
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Right. Yeah. And that’s part of the reason that I created the podcast so that people who are out on their own, still on their own, but can be a fly on the wall, listen to everyone’s experience, listen to us, commiserate about what we struggled with, and not feel like they are all alone in that experience [00:27:00] because.
Everybody’s different, but it helps to understand and to resonate with someone else’s struggles. Then you feel like, oh, well I don’t feel so bad. ’cause I thought I was just really falling off the deep end. And now I understand
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Mm-hmm.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: everyone else has also gone through this.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Yeah. They understand what my pain is.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Mm-hmm.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Yeah. Yeah.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: So in your experience as a channel, what are some of the more profound transmissions or realizations that you’ve experienced?
Pamela – Spirit Calling: That’s a big question. I channel so often I channel every month for our community, and then I work one-on-one with people, and I channel guidance for them to help [00:28:00] them in their life to help heal, you know, their soul body, to help them realize their full potential. many times people come to me and they say that immediately, I wanna understand my sole purpose. I want to understand my sole purpose, and there’s healing that has to happen for you to understand it, for you to even align to it. You have to raise your frequency. Think with the Great Council of Light, yeah, there’s tremendously amazing messages about religion, about, the world, about the creator beings, about frequency, about dimensions, about like so many different things. But the one thing. And it’s so basic. I mean, we’ve been talking about it all this whole entire time, is that really just need to understand that they have a frequency. And a lot of time they might think they understand what that means, but it’s really like understanding [00:29:00] your individual experience How does that affect you? And what are the things that you’re doing? What are the things that you’re consuming? What are the things that you’re, who are you sharing your life with? What is the work that you’re doing? What is your relationship like? of that. and really measuring it on a scale and like, you know, giving it a number, like grading it.
And am I able to improve that, and make that number higher and make that experience better as a whole, individually and then as a whole, because. People don’t understand that they’re magnificent. You said, you said, at creator beings we create a reality. Every single choice that we have is either love or fear, so we get to every time. That’s the free will that we have. That’s the learning and growing that our soul asked for when it came down here as the guides say joyfully, you know, to be the betrayer, to be the joy, [00:30:00] like to be every role that there is in many different lifetimes. That, you know, you have everything inside of you to have everything that you desire in this world. That you are creating it with every choice. So I think that oftentimes people don’t understand that the future that they want is already there. They just need to align to it. Align to it. I mean, it’s so elementary, Abraham Master talks about the dial and the radio, but it, it’s so basic maybe if you put it in the package of the future is in a package and it’s out there, you wanna tune to it. So every decision, everything that you’re doing, every word, every thought, everything, you want it to be at the highest and best intention for yourself and for that future that you want. And you have to give yourself grace because if you didn’t make the right choice, you get to make it again and again and again and, [00:31:00] and you know, and realize what’s before you.
And that’s all part of the journey.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yeah, I think our biggest challenge is continually choosing the higher ground because I like to say I’m glass half full, but you know, I’m just as, can be just as glass half empty as anybody.
And I kind of have these opposing, sides in my head where, , one will be continually complaining and one is like, come on, stop that, you know. Everything’s fine. All is well. Why are you complaining so much? You know?
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Yeah.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: I constantly have this conversation going on where there’s, the, the light and the dark, the, the optimistic and the pessimistic,
Pamela – Spirit Calling: you have to.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yeah, and it’s, and so it, with every second, it’s a challenge to continually choose that because we have down [00:32:00] days, we have challenges, we have difficulties, we have health problems, we have tragedies, and we have our emotional balance and our nervous balance, and all these.
Things that don’t wanna cooperate necessarily. So even if you’re mentally saying I’m gonna think for my highest good and I’m gonna keep a positive thoughts, there’s always all those challenges coming in.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Yeah. Yeah.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: And so it’s it’s our nature to not necessarily live in a constant state of that perfect vibration, but I think it’s our challenge to try to
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Yeah. And have grace. Listen, you can have a pity party for yourself. Fine. Do it right? But just pull your butt out of it.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: mm-hmm.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: get yourself back on track.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yeah.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: doesn’t have that? That’s the human experience.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yeah.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: for me, I worry about things. I’m a worrier. I’m a worrier. I’m
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Mm-hmm.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: I [00:33:00] need to know how everything is going to work all the time. That’s not how it works. I have to put my best energy into it. I have to create the clear pathways inside of my mind so I resonate in a frequency that allows whatever’s already there to find its way to me, you
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Mm-hmm.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: But if I have an an, like right now, I’m going through a tremendous, tremendously stressful period of my life, closing down a business and strategic planning for my other one, and like. My mom’s moving and like, oh, a hundred things are happening like everybody else. At the same time, my nervous system starts to go Z, Z, Z, I get the zings on my arm and all the things, and I just have to say, I’m gonna get through this
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: one step at a time, and what do I do? I go ask my beloved for a really grounding hug. I go out in nature without my technology and I say hello to each and every standing tree, and I get myself into a different space. I put the [00:34:00] music on that makes me so happy. I go take a shower and I love the water and I call the guides in like, are your tools to allow you to get that frequency? Position back to where it needs to be, but you’re gonna have the days, the times, the moments. It’s just part of it. I mean, we wouldn’t be human if we didn’t have them.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Right, so grace is key
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Grace, grace,
Megan Mary – MeganMary: and allowing yourself to feel the feels because when you’re going through a spiritual awakening, it is not all.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: not rainbows and
Megan Mary – MeganMary: No, no, no. And there’s a lot of tears and there’s a lot of pain in that shedding and in that discovery and in that realization. And you have to allow that.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Yeah, you have
Megan Mary – MeganMary: that.
That’s important. It’s an important part of the process. Well, if there were closing words that you would like to pass along to our listeners.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Yeah, I think I would just say that no matter what comes in your way, [00:35:00] you can always call on your team. It’s all around you love, and guidance. I think sometimes people forget that your deceased loved ones, even your deceased animals, like whatever it is. I call in the energy of the trees constantly to help me ground, to help me ground.
I look at them from my window. You’re not alone. In the physical world, but in the, in the metaphysical world, in the nonphysical world, there’s so many things around you to support you. And so you have that, that ability. So utilize it and just keep moving forward with the best intention for your path, and you’ll be great and you can do it. You’ll look back and you’ll go, wow, look what I did. And that gives you courage and strength move through another hard decision into the next pool of possibilities to see what you can create because it’s fricking awesome. Once you make the choice and you see like it’s amazing and you keep doing it over and over and over again.[00:36:00]
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Good advice.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Yeah.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Well, where can people find you if they wanna find out? More about your community and the guidance that you offer.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Thank you so much. The community that I built is spirit- calling.com. I’m very active inside of it. We have weekly events. I create a custom sound healing every month for our community. a channel message for our community. Every month I lead calls. We have events and courses and workshops. It’s awesome. I’m doing right now an Awakening Accelerator Mastermind, so there’s a special way to be with the council every single month and receive these energy transmissions. It’s amazing. People are having these accelerated awakenings, more vivid dreams, more alignments heightening their frequency and healing their soul body. And I do one-on-one soul path coaching to help people uncover their purpose. But my social platforms are all spirit calling Pamela. So Instagram, TikTok, YouTube. And I post videos and I [00:37:00] share and do cool stuff on my YouTube. So go check me out and go follow my page. And I have a penal gland activation meditation.
That’s the bomb. amazing. It’s just amazing. It’s channeled by the council and they came in and infused energy while I was recording it. It’s as if they’re leading the meditation and I have a womb activation that they gave me to do, and it’s helping women of all ages heal their womb.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Hmm.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: it’s incredible.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Wow.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Memories are all coming up
Megan Mary – MeganMary: Okay.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: Yeah.
Megan Mary – MeganMary: I will link all of that in the show notes so everybody can go check it out. And thank you very much for being here today, Pamela, and telling your story. I really appreciate it.
Pamela – Spirit Calling: You’re welcome. Thank you for having me.
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