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Megan Mary: Welcome. Well, today we have Danielle Joworski learning how to embrace her feminine side, and intuition has been a game changer for Danielle from starting her career in a microbiology lab and having a fear of the camera to being an award, winning business woman and TV host.

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she transformed her life and career at 40, and now helps other female founders 40 plus to explore ways, to show up and be seen in their businesses in ways that feel aligned.

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Danielle Joworski: Thank you, Danielle. I’m so happy to have you here. Oh, thank you so much, Megan. I’m so grateful to have this conversation with you.

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Megan Mary: Yes, I think what you are doing for 40 plus females is amazing. I’m inspired by your visibility, and it’s just knowing that you’re there and that you’re advocating visibility has just helped me in in this sort of ethereal mental way. So yes, if you never know who you’re who you’re touching when you, when you come out with

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Megan Mary: inspiration. Right?

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Danielle Joworski: Absolutely so true.

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Megan Mary: So I one of my first questions that I ask everyone is, what does enlightenment mean to you?

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Danielle Joworski: So enlightenment for me. So a little bit of my background is I. I have a degree in adult education, and we use like a maslow’s hierarchy of needs, which basically talks about how if we can somehow manage to fulfill our basic premises or may our basic needs, then we can start on that path towards enlightenment. So if our food our shelter are taken care of, and then we get up to safety security. And then, as we start looking at

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Danielle Joworski: connecting team work families and things like that. So enlightenment for me is that you really kind of transcending everything that is in the physical. And you’re really starting to connect with who you are from it in almost like a spiritual perspective.

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Danielle Joworski: understanding that everything that we do, we are all one. We are all part of a collective and really exploring. How do we best fit into that to help others as well as helping ourselves?

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Megan Mary: Yes, I love the vision of it being a collective. And what you said about it not being physical, not being tangible. That’s that’s really key. The 2 things are really key because it’s that introspection. It’s that connecting with

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Megan Mary: the inner knowing that really can bring us to that place of greater knowledge which then collects the connects us with everyone else.

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Danielle Joworski: Yes, absolutely. And yeah, we in something we feel from inside. But it’s so external to us, as well, at the same time.

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Megan Mary: and also what’s so interesting is when you do that really deep introspection, you end up discovering things that actually resonate profoundly with other people, even though it comes from way inside it. It’s so easy, then, to connect with others once that’s

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Megan Mary: made visible.

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Danielle Joworski: Yeah, exactly made visible, and that could be hard sharing those things with others, because it’s not talked about a lot. Which is why I really love what you’re doing with this platform and creating that space for us to talk about enlightenment intuition, the things that we feel and think on the inside.

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Danielle Joworski: But yeah, we’re living in this very physical world. You can see, like such a like an oxymoron, but I felt it for me when you start to connect within when you start to go on that path towards enlightenment, whatever that means for others.

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Danielle Joworski: It. It’s opens up so many different other doors and experiences. And I feel like you, just you experience life

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Danielle Joworski: and a much deeper level, and you much more present present in life than if you were just living it. That makes if that makes sense for anyone else. Absolutely, yes, absolutely.

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Megan Mary: And what you said about it not being

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Megan Mary: they’re not being a an area to to talk about that. That’s one of the whole reasons that I created this, not only because I wanted to experience what everyone else had discovered their gift was, but I wanted to hear how they got there, and I wanted to share my story, too, so that I didn’t feel so alone in my journey that obviously it was so unique.

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Megan Mary: But it it’s everyone else, you know. A lot of people seem to be going on their own journeys and feeling call feeling inspired, feeling that connection and not really knowing

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Megan Mary: what to do about it, how to go about walking down that path. And it’s not really, culturally supported. Dreams are definitely not something that are commonly shared in our society. And so there’s just so much that.

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Megan Mary: you know we we struggle to be able to bring to the light of day. And

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Megan Mary: and that’s part of the work of dream work really is

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Megan Mary: getting over that stigma, and understanding that there is a treasure trove of information waiting there for us

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Danielle Joworski: if we’re open to it to receiving it, and then exploring what that actual meaning is.

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Megan Mary: Yes, yes, so tell the listeners a little bit about your enlightenment journey, and if there was a pivotal moment in your life that brought you to do what you are doing today from microbiology to a TV show host

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that that’s a big journey.

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Danielle Joworski: hey, big journey, just a little bit different kind of industries and fields. And yeah, and I got into TV with no background, no experience whatsoever.

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Danielle Joworski: This kind of a journey of enlightenment that I’ve I’ve been on. It’s funny, because for me it was that fortieth birthday

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Danielle Joworski: where I get I don’t know where I am. There’s the big talk of the old fortys over the hill. It’s a big, you know, midlife crisis, and I find I found it literally my fourteenth birthday was that mid-life awakening day

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Danielle Joworski: where I knew it was coming. I was trying to avoid it and ignore it so much to the point where I wanted to be on a trip somewhere else where I could just ignore the day. As the universe would have it, I I had to be at home on my birthday. And so I had to celebrate it with my kids. And it just became that night it was I. I just cannot live this life anymore. And the only way I could really describe it was

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Danielle Joworski: I I I knew I was living my life because I’m physically here living that life, but I feel like I wasn’t living my life. It was someone else’s life. It’s always like there is this. I was in these 2 different dimensions, and I was in the wrong place, but having this physical experience in the wrong dimension, it’s so. It was the oddest feeling. I didn’t know what it was at the time. I had nobody that I could talk to about it, so I just I kept it hidden.

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Danielle Joworski: And then on 40th birthday, it just became. I cannot walk down this path any more. This is, I knew inside that I was done walking this path, and so I I made a choice and decision to start exploring and answer this question, who am I? What am I here for? There’s got to be something more to life than what I was doing at that point in time. And that’s what I just I made that commitment to. Just let’s let’s just

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Danielle Joworski: start. Take it one step at a time, stepping back and start answering those questions, and just being really open to seeing where that journey took me.

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Megan Mary: And were there particular modalities that you dabbled with at the time that helped you to align yourself with your new path.

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Danielle Joworski: Good question. I really no when I think about where I am today, in my spirituality, and really just understanding what this enlightenment is, and choosing to be on that journey. And like I, I love talking 3D. 5D. Multi D I love talking about that. But when I think about where it was at 40 again.

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Danielle Joworski: like kind of energy, work and energy talk and talk about the universe, it was kind of woo-woo kind of talk. It wasn’t mentioned. I’m I’m from a corporate background, so manifesting and abundance. Were not words that I heard in a corporate environment. And neither were my friends using them.

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Danielle Joworski: So when I started going on this journey, I really just started connecting with different people and opening up to listening to other people and I feel that

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Danielle Joworski: it found me. These modalities found me because I was open. I got really curious when people started talking about energy work. I don’t know what that is. What is that? And just kind of it, judging, but not judging at the same time, because everything was just so new, and at the same time as trying to figure out who I was. And how was this connecting? And why am I learning about this? all at once. Why so

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Danielle Joworski: so for me, it was just. It’s just being open to learning and listening to conversations from people and being willing to ask questions and be curious and not judge.

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Megan Mary: definitely. So many so many things have across my path on my journey and I’ve just said, okay, I don’t. I’m doing all what that is. I’ve never heard of that. But I want to know what that is, because it’s crossing my path. So there’s a reason that I’m supposed to find out what that is. And so I always follow those

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Megan Mary: those little turns in the road when they come. Because I feel like, okay. You know, there’s a million things in this world that you could run into in one day, even just on the Internet. And when when something crosses your path. There’s a reason

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Danielle Joworski: exactly, and that that’s part of learning it, too, is just understanding that things are coming in and out of your life. They’re flowing in and out, and their experiences, and sometimes a path for you to take, or sometimes it becomes a how bad do you want something? How badly do you want that

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Danielle Joworski: path of of enlightenment or this new exploration? It’s almost like a in the universe testing you. So it just became what path I want to be on exploring lots of different paths, and I found for me what happened was when things kind of cross my path that all of a sudden I just had

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Danielle Joworski: like this, really like this curiosity, for sometimes it was insatiable, like, I would just start reading books, a lot of books on a certain topic, or I would be starting to to research things on the Internet, or when people talked. I started running in and I say running in different circles. But really my my network shifted

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Danielle Joworski: to be more people who were in that holistic wellness, spiritual world. And I just sat there even though I know, and I was I just told this many times at the beginning. I didn’t look like I did. I kind of was a part of the group. I was definitely that that thing that stuck out. But I stuck with it because it was so curious as to why this is being put in front of me, why I am so interested in it.

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Danielle Joworski: And then, when the time came started learning about a little bit more and then applying it into my own life.

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Megan Mary: and I’ve had other conversations with women. That also came from the corporate environment and just are lauding that we’re discussing it saying, we really need to bring all of this wisdom to the fore and stop hiding it and stop shoving it under the rug, and stop doing it in in our closets and and not really sharing it, because there’s so much to be won from

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Megan Mary: actualizing all the information that we could access. When we really start

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like you said, opening, opening yourself up to it.

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Megan Mary: And we had talked about synchronicities before, and I feel like paying attention to synchronicities is really a great way to start tuning in

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Megan Mary: to to that guidance because

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Megan Mary: they’re so small sometimes that we go. Oh, isn’t that funny that that just? And I was just. And and you just like a

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Megan Mary: it’s a coincidence, but then the more you start to pay attention, the more they happen, and the more you see. Oh, oh, just all kinds of things. And you see, you see, you’re being led, and it’s a comforting. It’s a comforting feeling,

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Danielle Joworski: yes, or even the fact that you can trust or a sign, that you’re on the right path
for me. Numbers and and animals are big symbols that I I really connect with. I’ll see the license plates, especially constantly. I’m seeing when I’m I’m going down a new path. I’ll see license plates 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, sometimes lots of different, like license plate sequences like that. In the same day

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Danielle Joworski: I’m on the right path, or even this morning I was sitting outside with my coffee just kind of being present and and meditating, and I open my eyes and it it’s cool in the morning. And this beautiful yellow butterfly just came flying by. And I realized, okay, so that’s a sign, because it it’s too cool right now for them to be out.

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Danielle Joworski: Not as I haven’t really seen any other butterflies. Yet this this season where I am.

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Danielle Joworski: and I’m in the process of undergoing this massive transformation in my business. So when I saw the the butterfly was, okay.

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Danielle Joworski: yeah, there is a transformation happening right now. Just trust the process because worrying and scary, because change can be hard. But when you become more aware of the symbols for me I find when I, when I became aware of the symbols and learning how to trust it, because, okay, I’m on the right path. I’m taking the right journey, and when I don’t see a lot of symbols it becomes oh

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Danielle Joworski: that’s awareness of. Oh, maybe I’m not traveling down the right path, or need to ask to be different. So I’ll ask the universe. Show me if this is the right step. Show me a

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Danielle Joworski: pink butterfly, something really odd. And you we would really stand out. So it’s super obvious, because I always ask for if you can’t make it super obvious, because I don’t want it to be subtle. And then I miss the first couple of times, and everything goes, you know, kind of show me that I I ask for big, super, obvious signs, so that I see it. That’s it, I know. Move on.

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Megan Mary: Yes, we had an enormous full rainbow the other day, and I just thought, Oh, yes, this is. This is a good sign.

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Megan Mary: because that doesn’t happen that much. And even when it does happen, I I’m sitting in my room with the blinds shut like right now, I’m completely miss it. So you know the fact that I saw that was like.

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Danielle Joworski: yes. good sign

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Megan Mary: yes, and it’s funny that you said the show me part because I’ve I’ve had so many metaphysical mystical type dreams, and one of them was particularly about show me, and it was very much like, just.

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Megan Mary: you know.

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Megan Mary: lay out that red carpet because I’m ready to walk down it and

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Megan Mary: Have you had a similar experience with with your dreams

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Danielle Joworski: for me? I dream especially right now. I don’t know what’s going on, but definitely, I’ve been drinking a lot more, but when I wake up

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Danielle Joworski: like I’m not remembering them as as much as I should, I know, and or as much as I would, and I need to get better at leaving in pen and paper beside my my desk and and writing them out, or remembering to write it out when the paper and pen are right there. But for me it becomes

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Danielle Joworski: trying to think of anything.

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Danielle Joworski: I don’t know it, just for me. It like I’m more of which is interesting because I tend to see things more so. I I think I would see things more in dreams. But I I you get more from the feeling of the dream. Is it the feeling of anticipation?

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Danielle Joworski: What’s going on so really kind of picking up on that. I don’t remember it becomes oh, what did I feel like I feel like my dreams I’m having lately, because they seem so vivid. They’re almost very lucid. I just have this feeling of speeding up, and things are just getting getting really fast. So just be like being prepared. So that’s kind of the feeling I’m getting from them again. I don’t know what’s going on. But then I got the butterfly showing up, which is kind of the same transformation. So just

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Danielle Joworski: between the 2, just okay, breath breathe ground. Okay, things are moving forward. I’m getting signs. That’s going to be okay. It’s going to be a transformation. So which is good. But be prepared for some more change, and things are speeding up. So who knows? Yes, yes, will definitely definitely pay attention to the mood. That is one of the quickest ways to get to the meaning of the dream is to pay attention to the mood

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Danielle Joworski: for sure.

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Megan Mary: So let’s talk a little bit about what you are doing with other women today, and how you are helping them realize their

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Megan Mary: you know their value and align them with their visibility. What’s the your favorite thing about what you do.

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Danielle Joworski: That’s great question. The favorite thing about what I do is, in fact, that I really get to work with women and help them to close those visibility gaps from where they are, to where they see themselves and really fit in the how I used to do a lot of coaching, and I’m shifting in my business now, more to consulting, because I really want to get in the weeds with with other female founders who are, who can see themselves moving forward. They just struggle. And the problem is, I don’t know how. I don’t know how. As a coach.

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Danielle Joworski: were my job was to to that kind of Guide to get your clients to really realize and have that awareness around the how, whereas my corporate background was, I was the how I was I was fixing in my job was to identify problems and then go ahead and fix them and bring in other people to collaborate, to create solutions. So now, going back to that and to kind of taking now that corporate role and bring it into entrepreneurialism. And it’s fascinating because it just becomes these

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Danielle Joworski: little things that female founders. They just want to elevate their voice, their presence, how they’re showing up in whatever space is showing in, but becomes well, they’re not quite sure how

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Danielle Joworski: often it’s these little things like updating your linkedin profile. Or it, it could be something bigger where I’m working with another client where she wants to do an in-person event. Well, how do you do that? How do you plan it all? How do you create the workbook for it? How do you prepare yourself to show up to speak in front of all these people.

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Danielle Joworski: So I love the fact that I’ve got this very diverse background in different visibility, tools strategies, most modalities, and I get to use them. So every day is different. Every solution that I’m helping to provide to a female founder is different because it’s based on where they are

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Danielle Joworski: in their business and visibility journeys. And I’m just so grateful I get to help them take that. What they see as a visibility and leave like this big quantum leap in their business and really turn it into much smaller steps and then help them to take it.

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Megan Mary: and I think that that’s so important for particularly women who are purpose-driven, who are heart centered or solepreneurs because they

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Megan Mary: feel the calling they know they have something they have to share, and they are not in the space of figuring out how to get from A to B, how to get to the people that need them, how to set themselves out of their own way to get their message out to the masses. I understand, because I’m in the same situation being an introvert and being just catapulted into this path

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Megan Mary: that I’m on. I wasn’t prepared to be the face of it, or to speak publicly, or to any of that. And so it’s. It’s a challenge, that is, it’s part of the path, but it’s

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Megan Mary: and it’s a necessity in order for everybody to find you, but I think it’s great that you’re helping women, whatever it is that they are founding. Whenever it is that they’re starting to get over that hurdle.

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Danielle Joworski: Yeah, and it’s fear. And like, like you, I’m an introvert. And for me it’s this calling. You talked about calling a couple of times already. So I feel like this is my calling is to help really raise the presence and the voices of other women, so they can be seen. They could be heard, found, and hired to do what they feel called to do right. Now

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Danielle Joworski: I feel really passionate about this, because when I at 40. When that birthday showed up, I made the decision to step off that corporate ladder begin this whole journey of exploration. It included becoming an entrepreneur. For the first time, which I failed, I

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Danielle Joworski: for 2 and a half years I struggled. I did not like the cameras. I had a fear of cameras, putting myself out there like me, the face and voice of my business! What is that? I no longer had a fortune 500 company’s name and their reputation to kind of fall back on. It was just me, and I had no idea how to put myself out there well, and grow a business at the same time trying to figure out who I was at the same time.

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Danielle Joworski: so I couldn’t put myself out there. I couldn’t be visible. I had to return to corporate, which was

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Danielle Joworski: at the time very painful. But I realized now it was needed because I got back in this environment, saw other women struggling and wanted to help that very entrepreneurial thing I wanted to help. I didn’t

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Danielle Joworski: quite know how to do it. Then this idea for a TV show came into my head. I want to connect women’s career challenges and business challenges to the solutions that women entrepreneurs provide. They need a platform to be seen, heard and connected.

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Danielle Joworski: I’m working full time, and I don’t want to worry about the tech. I’ll just pitch a TV show. So I created a TV show. I picked it to a local station and network. They accepted it. I end up producing it and hosting it. Again fear of the camera so. But I think that’s where the calling comes in. Just. I knew, deep within that

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Danielle Joworski: I could help so many other people by providing this platform. If I could just get over my fear of being seen being visible and being in front of the camera.

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Danielle Joworski: It was so much better for the collective. And so it was all about not me anymore for the camera it was. I’m just a conduit in the platform to allow these conversations to happen. And that’s that’s where that passion for what I do today. It came from. It came from failing.

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Danielle Joworski: but the failing was needed, nor for me to find the path where my passion is, and where I feel very purposeful today.

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Megan Mary: and I wouldn’t even look at it as a failure, it’s just that you found where you were needed.

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Megan Mary: That’s that’s the success. You you you realize that you actually were needed there in that environment. And so that’s that’s fantastic. And I couldn’t agree with you more about overcoming the fear and being the conduit, and just, and that’s I say it a lot. But that’s giving out of your own way where you stop

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Megan Mary: stop worrying about the ego and stop worrying about how do I look? And I’m gonna say something wrong. And you know, I it’s not gonna work out, and all those things, and just do it for the benefit of everyone else that needs to hear the message. And once I started embracing that all of my other

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Megan Mary: couldn’t hang on as much. They just kind of started falling away a little bit, and it made it easier for me to say, Okay.

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Megan Mary: I’m just gonna do this. And even if I regret it later, I I have to share this. And I know that it’s going to benefit someone.

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Megan Mary: and that was enough of a reason to take that risk

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Danielle Joworski: absolutely, because it’s not. You’re not seeing you as you. It’s no longer about you. It’s what what everyone else or what can happen with everyone else when you step into this. And it’s amazing when you take the focus off of you

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Danielle Joworski: and put everyone else, and how everyone else is going to benefit. And again, that collective piece.

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Danielle Joworski: how, I’m not going to say the fear goes away, but that belief in what it is that you’re supposed to do, that calling, becomes greater than the fear which allows for that courageous action to be taken.

Megan Mary:Yes, it does. And when you make that courageous action, that’s when the universe, when you start to be in alignment, that’s when you start to get back

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Megan Mary: all of those messages and little signs of little synchronicities that yes, it’s working. Keep doing that. Keep keep going, keep going, and it really, when you, when you pay attention. Then it it spurs you on.

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Danielle Joworski: Yes.

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Danielle Joworski: yes, paying attention. That’s the important piece, but I think, especially at the beginning, like for me, it was I didn’t know what. Again. I didn’t know about all this stuff. It became finding people that I could trust to start opening up to and saying.

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Danielle Joworski: Hey. what about this. Can you share more about this with me

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Danielle Joworski: or taking something that you and Google on online and just starting to ask questions?

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Megan Mary: And I think listening. Part of listening also is listening to your dreams because everyone has them, and unlike a lot of other things that you might have to learn from someone else, or you might have to read a lot of books about. You have them every night, and they’re they’re holding messages for you, and it’s just a matter of figuring out how to decode them in your own dream language.

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But once you have that method you can access them. They can help you so much in figuring out what, where you’re needed, what you’re supposed to be doing, what you need to

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Megan Mary: in your direction. So

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Danielle Joworski: it’s only because I think about a lot of time, you know, in coaching, or you do personal growth work. The idea is that you visualize. So you’re consciously visualizing what it is that you want to where you see yourself your dreams are to me. It’s all I’m just kind of. It’s kind of me now where it’s this untapped tool for so many of us, because

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Danielle Joworski: you wouldn’t even have to, consciously, visually, it’s gonna do it for you. So why not allow it to project and share with you what it already sees for youm instead of trying to make yourself believe consciously. Yes, and get all that into your subconscious. Your dreams are coming from the subconscious. So just let it show you exactly what is possible.

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Megan Mary: That’s right. And that’s why I think I think of it as a treasure box. Because I feel like it’s this locked box of jewels

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that we all have, and we just don’t know where the key is. We don’t know how to open it, and once we can open it, then we have access to all of that

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Megan Mary: just richness and knowledge and inspiration and creativity and everything it’s there for us.

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And so many people have tapped into it. I mean so many famous artists and inventors. And we we talked about this before. It’s it’s really a storehouse that so many other people historically have found. But in mainstream it’s not used that way, and business business can use it. There are so many applications for business inventions. And if you’re working on a new project, or you have, you want to come up with a new product, or you want to come up with your next event, or you’re wondering how you should advertise.

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Megan Mary: I mean, I literally did an incubation on how should I advertise.

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and had a very interesting story that led me to, you know. Use the social network that I’m most familiar with, and it was like, Oh.

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Megan Mary: of course. So

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Megan Mary: you know. There it’s it’s it’s waiting there for you and I. I’m excited to just get put myself aside and get out there and share that with everybody, because I feel like there’s so much, so much they could do with it.

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Danielle Joworski: Really, it’s a tool. It’s a it’s right there. It’s it’s already part of us. It’s like why not learn how to tap into that and use it and make life, work, everything so much easier, and possibly more a lot more fun to. Yes, yes.

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Megan Mary: So what are the. If you had 3 takeaways to our listeners today, what would you impart? What wisdom would you pass along?

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Danielle Joworski: Okay, 3 points. The first is, where you start is never where you have, where you’re going to stay. So wherever you start in your business, your life, your career, this exploration around what enlightenment Is that journey for you where you start is not going to be where you stay.

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Danielle Joworski: You’re constantly going to be learning and evolving whether we realize it or not.

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Danielle Joworski: And so I think a lot of people get stuck in the well. I’m here at the beginning. Realizing that we all had a beginning. We all had a beginning, and we all figure out how to take our next step.

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Danielle Joworski: So where you start is not where you want to stay.

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Danielle Joworski: that would be point one. The second is the bigger the belief, the larger the leap.

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Danielle Joworski: something. I say a lot with clients that it. We talk a lot. And you hear a lot about it about these quantum leaps and understanding that quantum leap, it’s based on perspective what that actually means. And a leap is just a step.

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Danielle Joworski: and the bigger step that you take, the more belief that you have in either who you are. what you’re here to do, what you can do, or even your belief in someone else’s belief in you, because sometimes you don’t always believe you know in ourselves as much as other people believe in our ability to do something

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Danielle Joworski: when you have stronger belief, the leap that you’re going to take those courageous actions you’re going to take, they’re going to be bigger. So the bigger the belief that the larger the leap.

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Danielle Joworski: and again leap is all perspective, your own perspective of what that looks like. And the third. Oh, my goodness! Is

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Danielle Joworski: I just in like, live in the moment

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Danielle Joworski: and be really present in the moment, and really witness what’s going around and what’s happening around you like we talked about the signs and symbols. The universe is talking to you, again This could be your subconscious.

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Danielle Joworski: So many things are being shared with you. If you’re just, you have to be in the moment, though present, listening, full body, listening and really opening with your eyes, and looking at everything differently and understanding. Yeah, I’m seeing a butterfly, but it’s not a

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Danielle Joworski: great time for the butterfly or or things like that, just when things out of out of the ordinary. You’re not normal, but there’s showing up in front of you.

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Danielle Joworski: If you’re present, if you’re aware you’re going to be able to see, realize that you’re being guided. And there’s so many tools like the dream analysis that you do, they’re available to you to help you move through and really be present, and then take what you’re learning to take that next step forward.

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Megan Mary: Yes, that’s wonderful. And I think that when you recognize when you start being mindful and present in real life, and you start recognizing those things. You start to see the symbolism in them as you did. You said, Oh, a butterfly is is a symbol of transformation. And when you start doing that, it actually helps you recognize the symbolisms in your dreams.

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Megan Mary: because then you are reflexively, always noticing and analyzing at the same time, and the more you do it in your waking life, the more you do it in your sleeping life, and the more you will be able to then do it reflexively to the symbols in your dreams as well. So it helps you all around the full consciousness spectrum. When you start to have that

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Danielle Joworski: i like that, mindful observation. Yeah, good

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Megan Mary: thanks.

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Megan Mary: Well, where can people find you? If they want to become more visible? They want to learn how to get from A to B.

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Danielle Joworski: absolutely so. The best way to find me is my website to daniellejoworski.com on Instagram You’ll find me at Danielleajoworski or Linkedin Danielle Joworski.

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Megan Mary: Awesome. Well, thank you so much for being here, Danielle. Today I really appreciate everything that you’re doing for for other women. And I also love hearing your perspective on all of all that we discussed today. I I know it’ll resonate with our listeners, and it’s just great to have another deep discussion.

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Danielle Joworski: Absolutely. Thank you so much for again having and creating the space for for us to have this kind of conversation. Yes, definitely.

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Megan Mary: Thank you.

Danielle Joworski:You’re welcome.