[00:00:00] You are listening to Women’s Dream Enlightenment. Dream decoding deep discussions and stories of spiritual awakening to inspire your personal enlightened journey. I’m your host, Megan Mary, international bestselling metaphysical author. And founder of Inner Realms Publishing. Let’s bring in the light.

Megan Mary – MeganMary: Welcome. Today we have Felicia Bender, the Practical Numerologist. She uses numerology to validate and define your pathway and purpose in life in an empowered way that’s fun, inspiring, and actionable. She’s the author of Redesign Your Life Using Numerology to Create the Wildly Optimal You Master.

Numbers 11 22 33 the Ultimate Guide [00:01:00] and the Ultimate Guide to Practical Numerology Mapping Your Path and Purpose. Felicia, is the resident numerologist for astro style.com and is featured in many media outlets including Refinery 29 Women’s Health, the LA in the Los Angeles Times. Felicia.

Felicia Bender: Thank you. It’s wonderful to be here.

Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yes. I’m really excited for this conversation. You are the first numerologist to be on the podcast, so

Felicia Bender: Okay.

Megan Mary – MeganMary: great

Felicia Bender: We’re gonna have some fun then. That’s what I’m hoping for

Megan Mary – MeganMary: All right. So my first question is, what does enlightenment mean to you?

Felicia Bender: enlightenment. What does that mean to me? That’s a loaded question, I guess to start out with enlightenment to me simply means being okay with everything in some way, shape or form, and having a certain level of contentment, even when things are difficult, even when things seem unfair, [00:02:00] hard, harsh we’re going through, as an example, very difficult times, I think universally right now.

And I think to have a level of enlightenment means not to be, super, what toxically positive about anything, and yet to be able to find your sense of bearings and your sense of self within within the chaos or within the discomfort.

Megan Mary – MeganMary: I agree with that. That’s my first question to everybody, and it’s always different. I don’t like to prepare people for the question because it needs to be off the cuff, but it’s

Felicia Bender: Yeah.

Megan Mary – MeganMary: Very true in what you said, in terms of just accepting and being at peace with that.

So let’s, before we get into all of the intricacies that are numerology, let’s talk about what led you to be a numerologist.

Felicia Bender: That’s always an again, the $64,000 question, I’m sure that have a long story about how you ended up [00:03:00] where you are. And for me, I think the interesting element is I would place a true shift in my life was in my early thirties when my mother passed away and she was, to me very young she was 59 and at that point we were, there was a tumultuousness in the relationship. She was, she had troubles with alcohol, she had other things going on, and it was this. The moment, and I was a young mother, I was married, all of these things, and it was really the first time that I experienced such a level of loss and such a level of grief and such a level of someone departing before I felt, again at that younger age that things that I wanted to do or say could not be done or said.

And it really catapulted me, as I’m sure many of your listeners, we go on our [00:04:00] spiritual quest, we get that flinging door open when things when things are catastrophic. It’s not when things are all jazz hands, it’s not when things are going great. So that was a real a real shift for me.

I at that moment literally. It was like the beginning of a spiritual gauntlet for me. I began to read everything I could about intuition, about healing, about all of these things. And before that I was a very empathic person, but I had no interest in this sort of thing. I grew up Presbyterian for goodness sake, and so that was a real door opener.

I, I began, I was trained and certified in pranic healing, which is an energy modality. I, again, I was married, I had kids, I had, I went and got a PhD. I was doing all these things and still, I was always learning and always very interested in other things. And I’m a very [00:05:00] practical person overall. And so while I could really go into the woowoo, ’cause I was doing, hands off energy work and getting miraculous results, I still really longed for something that was a system that I could use.

I was using a system, but I also like. Communication. And I like doing that. And I ran across a book that had numerology in it. The big cosmic joke for me is that I hate math. More than anything. It was my worst subject in school, absolutely would run a, 400 miles to get away from a math problem.

And so what I really, it, I read this book, it had a little bit of numerology ’cause I would’ve never picked it up if it was just a numerology book and it just. Hit me. I, it was like, oh my gosh, this is, and I did my own at numbers and people in my life, and it just clicked [00:06:00] and then I was just hooked from then on, and it was this, I love the fact that it’s just it never lies, and it has such a depth and breadth of knowledge, and you can, work with it with other things and other modalities. But it was, it really opened a door for me that I found incredibly valuable and incredibly useful. And it gave an immediate communication where the energy work was much more subtle.

Megan Mary – MeganMary: Love that and. I agree with you wholeheartedly, and everybody who’s been on the show, anyone who’s had that spiritual awakening or door opening, or whatever you wanna

It as, has had a dark night of the soul or had a very, traumatic, monumental moment in their life where everything after that changed.

It was really a cross point, and it doesn’t just happen miraculously on your happy day.

Felicia Bender: No

unfortunately.

Megan Mary – MeganMary: that’s part of the reason that I have [00:07:00] this show is

Felicia Bender: Yeah.

Megan Mary – MeganMary: can come on and tell their story and everybody who’s going through it can realize this is actually how it goes.

And that there, it’s okay that there’s a light at the end of the tunnel, that there is a reason and a benefit to having gone through that. so that’s also why we talk about what the work is that. My guest is doing out in the world

Different, what they got led to. But I find all of the topics fascinating myself. And so numerology is something I have always been fascinated by. I’ve

Books about it over the years for a long time.

And like you, I was an English major, so I was not, did not like math, did not do well in math. And I still really love the system of numerology. It’s simple math. It’s not overly complex, but I

Felicia Bender: No.

Megan Mary – MeganMary: assigning meaning the numbers and so that for

Felicia Bender: Yes. And what I find, what I have found, [00:08:00] because I’m a humanities gal, like you’re the English major. I’m a theater major and I have a PhD in theater. And I’ve always been fascinated with human emotion, with human motivation, all of those things. And what really taps into that with numerology, our archetypes.

But also even more importantly to our conversation here, it isn’t math. It’s a language, right? It really is a speaking a language. It’s a code that has this information embedded within it. And so that to me is the real freedom of numerology. It’s a system, but it is a language in itself. I always think about it.

Like morse code. So let you know if if you walk into a room and it’s you can, if you don’t know Morse code, it’s just a real annoyance and you wanna get outta that room as soon as possible and get on with your day. If Morse code, you walk into that room and you can go, oh my gosh.

And you can, [00:09:00] and you could understand what the messages that are being relayed through that code are. I feel numerology is. Is very similar. We it’s here whether we know it or not, whether we believe in it or not. And it’s, and it actually is affecting all of us. And so if we could understand the language, we can really get the benefit from it.

Megan Mary – MeganMary: And like astrology, I think there’s some common misperceptions about it and there’s also. many different schools of thought. So there isn’t just one. And many people might think there’s only just one version of astrology. There’s not. And there’s also not just one version of numerology.

So let’s talk a little bit about the, that background.

Felicia Bender: I practice Pythagorean. There’s Chaldean and I’ll, again, I’ll lob that ball to you. I think you are more, have more expertise there. I know, just I say this about certain things, just enough to be [00:10:00] dangerous

Megan Mary – MeganMary: Sure. Me too.

Felicia Bender: about that. And,

Megan Mary – MeganMary: either.

Felicia Bender: So we, you can speak to that point and maybe, and point out the differences, but Pythagorean numerology is what I have learned and what I teach and what I use.

And it comes from Pythagoras. If you were paying attention to math class, the Pythagorean Theorem of Geometry, and apparently he was an interesting guy a mystic. Scientist, he was into music, into astrology, all kinds of things would’ve been interesting person to have on your show or have lunch with or something like that.

And and yet basically the concept is pretty simple. He, he and other, forms of numerology, posit, the idea that numbers. Aren’t just to count with, they don’t just give us a quantity of something that the numbers one through nine carry and zero carry with them information.

They, it’s a vibration. It is a frequency and it carries with it a characteristics and data. And I think in the [00:11:00] past we had to really extend our, this suspend, willingly suspend our disbelief, as we might say in theater. And yet now it’s a little bit easier in some ways to wrap our brain around because we are in such a technological world at this point.

And to understand that’s how data is transmitted. And so this is an, again, an ancient science and. Art because it is an interpretive art, just like astrology and everything else. It’s all the, you have the basic information and yet it, it is an interpretive skill that that you get to, to learn or to practice as you continue to practice it.

I said,

Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yes. There are a lot of different calculators online and

Felicia Bender: yes.

Megan Mary – MeganMary: that for the audience, if you’re going to use these, that sometimes they say what they’re using to calculate it and sometimes they don’t. so you might do it at a couple different sites and get different results.

Felicia Bender: Exactly.

Megan Mary – MeganMary: And I, one of the things that I [00:12:00] encountered was the treatment of the letter Y because many times you are calculating consonents or vowels and Y can be.

Felicia Bender: Exactly. And what I will say for those, there are people I’m sure listening who are familiar with numerology and some who aren’t. And so basically to have an understanding that in numerology, we will take your date of birth, your full date of birth, and your name as it appears on your birth certificate.

Those are the two things we use to create a chart, whereas in astrology, you’re going to use, you’re not using your name, you’re using your date of birth, your place of birth, and your time of birth. So we don’t use that aspect. We, but we do use the name and what we can derive from that is really quite amazing.

I’m. Still perpetually fascinated with how much information you can glean here, because not only can it give the core numbers, which give you a, [00:13:00] a full spectrum of, in, in our opinion, numerologically speaking, it’s what your soul chose to, to experience in this lifetime. It’s going to give you the positives of that, what you’re shooting for.

Then you’re also going to have the key concepts, the themes that will be challenge points, right? That will, you’re always gonna be challenged with the opposing. Forces, so to speak with that. And we can also look at cycles of time that we experience. So it’s not only about who you are, it’s about, where you show up and why you’re showing up there.

Megan Mary – MeganMary: And cycles of time brings up something that. I’m sure a lot of listeners might have a question about, especially as women, we might change our name when we become married or become unmarried, and so what happens to our NUMEROLOGICAL number when we take on a new name or when we regain our old.

Felicia Bender: Absolutely that there are big differences there. [00:14:00] And we could talk about that for a long time. And yet to make that succinct, I find that first off, with Pythagorean numerology, the given name on the birth certificate takes precedence at all times. It is the foundation that you will always be working from.

This is even very interestingly, and I’ll do this kind of as a sidebar, let’s say. I have a lot of clients who are like I was adopted, right? And. I had this name and then I had that name and then this, or I was born and on My birth certificate is literally, I’ve had some clients, baby Girl Jones, that is their original name, and then it was, changed a week later when they were adopted or whatever.

It was. It is my experience doing this for as long as I have that when that happens, a soul is coming in and they have a, some very deep lessons to learn about identity. Because that identity shifts and changes even more [00:15:00] dramatically when there’s kind of identity confusion. From the very beginning it’s not bad.

It doesn’t mean you know at, at all. And yet you’re being given extra hurdles to jump over to, to regain, to gain a sense of self

In a different way. Now going back to your question or your point, which is yes, women particularly have a lot of wear, a lot of different hats in life anyway, so it and.

And also have different, different energetic frequencies and imprints given their name changes. And for instance I have a family member who was married four different times, took the last name every time, and you can see a definitive difference in her personality. In her values, in other things when she was, had that particular name and that particular [00:16:00] identity.

Some are more dramatic than others, some are a little more subtle. And yet for women, I feel like it’s a very interesting I jokingly say that a lot of people are like, you just, you’re crazy. You wom you don’t know who you are, you this or that. And it’s sometimes there is some reality there in terms of numerology because when you’re changing your name all the time, you are changing your vibe, you’re changing your identity.

And I’ll give you a for instance, I had a friend one time who had a, her birth name, then she, her then her. Dad died and her mom married somebody else and she had, and she took that name as when she was in her 10 or whatever it was. Then she got married and changed her name, but not officially, and then she decided to go by her grandmother’s maiden name for last name.

But I literally, with this woman, I honestly didn’t know what her last name was. She couldn’t [00:17:00] decide. One day it was like, this is my last name, and one day it was, this is my last name. And guess what her life was like. It was a hot mess and it really was reflected in, she couldn’t make decisions. She would make some decision and it was a bad one, or she would abandon something before she let it go.

It was this constant circus and constant chaos because she just honestly couldn’t figure out who she was, just her name. So just that, I hope that answers your question in some way

Megan Mary – MeganMary: see that,

Felicia Bender: or addresses it.

Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yes.

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Megan Mary – MeganMary: And to go back to the differences with the different systems. So the Chaldean originates really from Babylon

Felicia Bender: Yes,

Megan Mary – MeganMary: I guess it’s one of the oldest systems and it does it a little differently. It uses numbers one through eight,

Felicia Bender: correct.

Megan Mary – MeganMary: off the

Felicia Bender: Benign.

Megan Mary – MeganMary: And it also sees the letters as sound vibration. Which I find really fascinating because sound healing is something that I incorporate into my work and it’s been part of my journey. And so frequency, very much being one of those secrets of the universe. So

Felicia Bender: Yes.

Megan Mary – MeganMary: I do enjoy that aspect. And I think it also has a tie to celestial events and it also looks at your commonly used name, not your birth certificate name. [00:20:00] So there’s a few differences there. And I think it’s interesting just to look at both sides of it. When I was writing my third book that came out last October, the Dream Dimensions, I wanted to incorporate numerology the story.

And. The whole trilogy deals with a ton of different metaphysical themes and it all takes place at Mercury retrograde and there’s a lot of solar flares and eclipses and full moons, and there’s a lot of celestial occurrences going on. And so when I was trying to pick which system to use, I was like drawn more to the Chaldean system because I felt it. Match more with the theme of the book. And I am calculating my character’s name, I started to encounter a lot of unique synchronicities, that her and I have the same, [00:21:00] in some cases. but it, interestingly, I think we actually match more on the Pythagorean side.

Felicia Bender: And what’s interesting is that I, and this is just my opinion take it or leave it how it is. I find that Pythagorean numerology does also believe in that, in the sound and the vibration and the frequency of the letters very similarly. I think the divergences are, it’s not using the number nine.

Because in Pythagorean we do and in Chaldean know because it’s sacred in that way. And then the other is prioritizing the current first and last name over the, so I think those are, to me, the two biggest differences.

Megan Mary – MeganMary: And so when I compared my pen name, my author name with my character name, the expression number, the soul urge number, and the personality number are exactly the same.[00:22:00]

Felicia Bender: Yeah.

Megan Mary – MeganMary: Which is really interesting ’cause I mean it’s, no, it’s no surprise ’cause Hannah is a creation of me and she

An expression of me. But then the personality number is also a master number. So let’s talk a little bit about master numbers, because in that case, my personality number is 11.

Felicia Bender: Yes. And so master numbers master numbers are. The repeating numbers, the 11, the double one, the double two, double three, and so on. The 11, the 22, and the 33. And in numerology, we also can just call them 11, or sometimes it’s an 11 slash two. Because if you add one plus one, it’s two. So it’s an 11 two, a 22, 4, 33 6, and so on.

And so basically the master numbers, when you see this show up anywhere in a chart it, it indicates that this person came in with higher spiritual potential, no matter how [00:23:00] you might personally define that. And also some more some more distinct challenges. It’s not easy. It’s a, it really is a marathon, not a sprint.

Those with master numbers I find are always being called for leadership positions to, to step up and sometimes that’s very incongruent with the feelings that go with it. It’s also a lot of high anxiety. That is embedded whether you can see it on the outside or not. People with master numbers have this embedded sense of knowing that they’re here to do something.

And yet usually it takes ’em quite a while to figure out what that is. And that can be extremely demoralizing or frustrating for people with master numbers. It’s also asking you to really really raise the bar in terms of your spiritual dimension, your self-realization and actualization, and being humble, being of service all of those things that are embedded with that.[00:24:00]

And then finally what I find with the master numbers is that they themselves are incredibly at odds with themselves. They’re in conflict with themselves. So for instance, I’ll use the 11 because you have that as your personality number and the personality number in Pythagorean Numerology is a number that is derived from adding the consonants in your name.

And this is more or less it’s not more or less. It is what it is. What, how other people might see you. Like how they might perceive who you are and what your personality is. And so the 11, the conflict with the 11 is the channel. The 11 is the inspired healer and teacher and kind of the wound, it’s the Chiron archetype as well, the wounded healer.

And so the conflict here is that the two is the foundational energy here, and the two is the lover, not the fighter. The two is. [00:25:00] Here. She or he the two is incredibly empathetic, usually incredibly psychic. Very energy permeable, let’s put it that way. They’re the peacekeepers.

They’re the diplomats. They’re learning to be the mediators and the diplomats. So the cruel joke is that because they’re here to learn that, guess what, their life is usually full of. Conflict. They’re all right. They’re always the one because they’re learning how to mediate that, how to, I always say wear how to wear other people’s shoes, but not wear those shoes home.

It’s a, it’s, and it is.

Megan Mary – MeganMary: Advice.

Felicia Bender: It’s quite, and there’s so much more to that. But that’s, but they’re the ones who are always they’re the shapeshifters. They’re the pleasers. They’re the ones who want everyone to be good and okay. And they usually will forego their own needs in order to make sure that there’s peace.

Then you’ve [00:26:00] got the double one that’s mixing and mingling with that. And the double one is just the opposite. The one is me. It’s all the I words. It’s ego itself. It’s independence, individuality, initiation. It’s being productively disruptive. It’s going after it. It’s leadership. It’s entrepreneurship.

It’s creation. So it’s all this high energy. Me, I’m, I want to win. I want to win. And the two just wants to navigate and mediate, win-win scenario. And the one wants to be in charge and the two wants to be the supporter, the one on the side they wanna be really involved in all of it.

Again, there’s a lot of information there, but it’s a very distinctive push pull and people who have this get are can be really confused by it early on. ’cause they’re like, why in these situations am I a badass? And I can go and do this and then why [00:27:00] am I in this instance just, I just let everybody else go ahead of me and then I resent that, those sorts of things that numerology, if you can understand, the setup, you could at least have a knowledge that’s oh, I’m not just crazy.

Or I’m not failing or whatever. It’s just how do I understand this and how do I make it work for me? How do I make it work for me rather than work against me?

Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yeah. Yeah. And what you said at the beginning about being called into the service and having a land of a lot of anxiety about it. That was 100% my story for anybody who’s listened to my podcast because I was called to have the podcast, which was a service to other women, but I was terrified of being on camera, and I didn’t want to record my voice.

I didn’t want to be on social media, and I thought, how am I going to overcome this and

Felicia Bender: Yeah,

Megan Mary – MeganMary: this leadership role to, raise the visibility of all these other women’s personal stories. So that very much was [00:28:00] that push and pull

Felicia Bender: absolutely.

Megan Mary – MeganMary: call.

Felicia Bender: And if I look at your chart, your birthday is a three. I would say that really holds hands with the elements of the three. And the three is, again, as your birthday, it very much is a secondary gift or a, that you’re bridging into your life path number to really support it.

But the three is the creative communicator and meant to be in the spotlight, all about expression and creativity. But there’s going to be blocks there. And the biggest block for the three is extraordinary self-doubt. And so that comes very much into, and it’s interesting to see again, how it flows and goes and mixes and mingles with your entire chart to see what, what positive elements and where it speaks to each other, right?

As these aspects and then where it might, butt up against each other and form some more interesting challenges that can go with it.

Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yeah. How about the expression number of [00:29:00] seven?

Felicia Bender: The expression number of seven. So to me the seven is the analyst and also the spiritual seeker. But I will say usually it’s reluctant that they have to come kicking and screaming to go that direction because the seven overall in my experience, is here to learn trust. To develop a sense of openness and become a little more vulnerable because the seven is very heady and intellectual.

The sevens are like a walking, talking head, and you’re being asked to connect with yourself and with your body fully and completely. And that’s a challenge. The seven is, I find the seven is. Is usually someone who’s much more comfortable in the observer role. I’m gonna observe and analyze and everything else.

I don’t wanna participate [00:30:00] because that

Megan Mary – MeganMary: that’s the introvert side.

Felicia Bender: Yes, very introverted and also, so there again, there are many layers and a lot of depths to every number, but to the seven. And the seven I will say just in a nutshell is really super psychic. Amazing. Fountain of wisdom, and yet the trick is that the seven asks to understand that they are both that and I do the metaphor of the left brain, right brain, learning how to make to know that you have both develop both.

And then accept both. Not only accept them, but then bridge them together. It’s like bridging heaven and earth together, right? It’s that beautiful tango of being very research data-driven. There’s the and innate skepticism to the seven. All right. If we’re here having a spiritual experience, prove it.

Show me the show, it show me, show me [00:31:00] the data, show me the proof. And then there are going to be things that happen to the seven that they can’t explain. And that’s the little tickle, right? That’s the little nudge and the, okay, how are you gonna do this? And so the brilliance of the seven is being able to make that leap.

Megan Mary – MeganMary: A hundred percent yes. That’s how I ended up being a computer programmer and a dream analyst because

Felicia Bender: you go.

Megan Mary – MeganMary: it’s both sides where I’m completely technical, completely research oriented, and I’m also very just, I don’t have the scientific proof for this, but I know it to be true.

Felicia Bender: Yes.

Megan Mary – MeganMary: the internal knowing

Those two was my challenge.

Felicia Bender: Exactly.

Megan Mary – MeganMary: integrating the body with the mind. It’s okay, you’re very, like you said, heady, very in your head, very intellectual, and you’re not listening to your body at all.

Felicia Bender: I often find that [00:32:00] sevens ha people with sevens in their chart. We’ll experience some kind of something in terms of their body, whether it’s a sensitivity, a food sensitivity, or a, sometimes it can be a little more, a little, but usually it’s this underlying thing that, that first of all makes them consider their body makes them pay attention to it, and second of all, makes them go out of traditional. Usually they’ll go to a doctor eventually and they can’t get an answer in traditional ways and whatever. And it will be enough where it. Pushes them to go outside of the realm of traditional whatever it is, right?

They’ll seek relief with energy work or with hypnotherapy or with, they’ll get to that place where something in their rational brain it they’ve exhausted all of those possible solutions and they have to seek something elsewhere. And sevens are a very [00:33:00] slow digestive purlative energy. It’s just a very ponderous

Megan Mary – MeganMary: Cerebral.

Felicia Bender: Yes. Yeah.

Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yes. were there other things that you wanted to point out in terms of my chart before we close that? Any major key points that you saw?

Felicia Bender: One of the things that I found interesting is and I’m going away from personality profile into. I love this cycle in numerology called Pinnacles, and they are four periods of time that are extended periods of time. And we can see, to me they’re, I’ll mix metaphors here, but they’re first of all.

Degree programs that we’ve signed up for an extended period of time. We can see what the topic of learning and that we were really, all it. What I love about these periods of time is we can see them as [00:34:00] where we are, where we’ve been and where we’re going and get a trajectory or a framework here.

And for me, what they have served and what they serve for clients is. A validation about why did that crappy thing happen to me? Why this family, why that marriage, why that, whatever it was. And then often it gives you a release into, oh that, if I’m learning that, that makes perfect sense, right?

It, I’m not happy about it, but but it makes perfect sense. And for you, you have your first 38 years are double number fives. You don’t have fives anywhere else. And I would think when you show up in a period of time that’s out of your character, it’s, it can be like landing in a foreign country, right?

It can be the best time of your life, but it’s also weird. And you’re a seven life path. And in, in your with your original [00:35:00] name and a nine expression. So you have this spiritual capsule or container that you are, and you show up in this period, in these double periods of five for 38 years, which are topsy-turvy.

It was, I would think chaos. Was it for you?

Megan Mary – MeganMary: was tough. Yeah,

Felicia Bender: Yeah. Lots of that. And it’s just fascinating to look and see because when a five shows up as a pinnacle, I find that it’s asking you to create the levels of freedom.

That you want in your life. Okay, that sounds all well and good. But it’s very deep in terms of levels of freedom, financial freedom of health, emotional freedom, all of the freedoms.

What are we going to prioritize? What are we gonna look at? And it’s a time of rapid change. Where there’s all kinds of things that are changing around you that you have no control over. So you have to learn to be very adaptable. And [00:36:00] then on the other hand of on on the other side of this it’s a time because freedom is the theme in the basic energy.

We’re always gonna get the opposite, right? So we’re always thinking about. The opposite energy. So when you have a five pinnacle, it’s often where you want freedom, but it’s really hard to get where you’re stuck, where you feel smothered or tethered or responsible or something that is holding you back.

From doing that. Or it can be a time where, you have to go to rehab afterwards.

Megan Mary – MeganMary: We’re

Fives, those

Felicia Bender: you are. No, but the beautiful, yeah, and what I’m saying though is that it’s a beautiful experience, but but that would’ve been inter, it’s an interesting 38 years. And because particularly because now in the pinnacle you’re in an energy that’s very oppositional to that.

It’s the for and the for is about leaving a legacy. [00:37:00] Four is about right. Leaving your legacy working in a systematic way to get to, to do something that has lasting value. And it also is where you are working hard to I was gonna say contain, but that’s not really the right word. To maintain a sense of stability, security, to feel rooted, to feel anchored, to feel that sense of foundation in your life so that you can succeed and build what you want to build in this part of life. And yet you couldn’t be there without having experienced all the other chaos.

Megan Mary – MeganMary: Percent right?

Felicia Bender: yeah. Yeah it’s really interesting, isn’t it? I love the numbers.

Megan Mary – MeganMary: that’s why I have everybody come tell their story because it’s look, I know you have a traumatic story. You have something that you endured. Everybody has these challenges that we go through, and the whole point is to shine the light on it and say, look, this [00:38:00] is why you can do what you’re doing now.

Felicia Bender: Exactly.

Megan Mary – MeganMary: is what led you to do that, and had you not experienced that, you would not have be where you are now and.

Felicia Bender: you wouldn’t have this strength, right?

Megan Mary – MeganMary: lining.

Felicia Bender: Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.

Megan Mary – MeganMary: Yes. Thank you so much for sharing that and, elucidating my numbers

Felicia Bender: Absolutely.

Megan Mary – MeganMary: I’m sure it’ll spark curiosity in everybody what their numbers are.

So where can they go to find you and to find that out?

Felicia Bender: Felicia bender.com is my is my website. There’s a lot that, I have a monthly forecast there that’s free. All kinds of information, a calculator as well. And I’m also on YouTube. There are lots of videos I have there that will, walk and talk you through your numbers.

Megan Mary – MeganMary: Awesome. thank you so much for being here today, Felicia, and sharing your story and what you’re doing out in the world. I really appreciate it.

Felicia Bender: Thank [00:39:00] you.

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