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Megan Mary: Welcome. Today I have Michelle Murphy as a business activator and soul mentor. Michelle supports spiritual entrepreneurs on their path of soul expression through their business. Michelle is passionate about the sacred relationship between a business and its owner.

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Megan Mary: knowing that this alignment is paramount to soul growth, success, joy, financial abundance, and service. Thank you so much for being here today, Michelle. I am so honored.

Michelle Murphy: Thank you.

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Megan Mary: Yes, so I have so enjoyed your presence on insight timer, and you really inspired me with your meditation tracks and your talks, and I really wanted to have everyone else experience you and

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Megan Mary: share what you, the work that you do, and helping people align with their business. I think it’s fabulous, and it’s really helped me. So

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Michelle Murphy: that’s awesome.

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Megan Mary: So the first question that I ask everybody is, what does enlightenment mean to you?

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Michelle Murphy: Yeah, that’s a great question. enlightenment for me really is, I’m just going to make this really simple is

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Michelle Murphy: the pathway to self love. It’s that journey home to love. And I think the journey we go on. If we really practice that self love and that relationship with self

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Michelle Murphy: is the pathway to enlightenment. So I guess the result of that of enlightenment is finding that deeper, more intimate relationship with self.

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Michelle Murphy: and that means finding yourself back in that bundle of love that you are.

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Michelle Murphy: So I think it’s all about love

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Michelle Murphy: finding our way back to Love. We’re learning how to love again

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Megan Mary: and loving ourselves, which is part of that whole connection to our higher self.

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Michelle Murphy: Yes, yes, and I’m talking about the kind of love that is that unconditional higher level of love that we once knew before we came into a human body, and then kind of had that amnesia experience and forgot that we are, we are that, and and how powerful and potent love really is. So yeah, that’s the journey home.

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Michelle Murphy: And then we find out it was always there there, anyway, and we’ve gone on this big journey. But we come back home to self, really.

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Michelle Murphy: Yes, it was there all on.

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Michelle Murphy: Yep, the answers are within. You know that that that but it is true it is.

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Megan Mary: Yes.

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Megan Mary: so on your enlightenment journey. Let’s share with our listeners what your Enlightenment journey was like. And if there was a pivotal moment that brought you where you are today to do the wonderful work that you’re doing now.

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Michelle Murphy: Yeah. So

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Michelle Murphy: I’ve kind of always said my stories. I don’t have a story because I am just really normal. I didn’t have an epiphany. I didn’t have this light bulb moment I didn’t have a near death experience.

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Michelle Murphy: However, there was that pivotal moment. that you talk about when you look back in hindsight

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Michelle Murphy: I have lived a life where I really felt in fear all the time. I felt like I was on the sidelines a lot, and I think those 2 experiences one when I was about 11 years old, where I was on a church camp, and I kind of felt called by this higher power to sort of ask Jesus into my life, and I remember the big fuss they made over me then, and

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Michelle Murphy: That was put to bed when I was about 20, and I. I stayed in the church, and and and sort of, you know, studied those doctrines until I was in my early twenties, when I went through divorce, and then I separated from the church for a good 20 years. It separated from my spiritual life for about 20 on years.

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Michelle Murphy: and

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Michelle Murphy: it, you know, I I went to a life coach, and they said, You know what’s the spiritual part of your life like, and I just kind of there is none, that was a bit bit bit bit of an eye opener. But it was even many years after that

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Michelle Murphy: that I was operating a bookkeeping business, and I I believe then, looking back, I was in transition. I was bored. I was finding it hard to feel the service in that role anymore. Like, I used to think on helping people with their books. And because I I worked with small businesses.

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Michelle Murphy: and I was starting to struggle in my home life. I started to drink a bit, and so I was really in that pivotal transition phase.

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Michelle Murphy: and I was at a a client’s premises doing simple keeping. And the receptionist, there said, having a slow afternoon and chatting. And they said, Look on bored. I can’t do this anymore. I’ve got to go and do something. I think I’m gonna learn counseling. And I just went, oh, yeah, that’s that’s nice. I have no clue. I didn’t want to do that because my mom was a counselor and not following her footsteps. So I just been on great. Yeah, off you go.

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Michelle Murphy: The 2 weeks later this person said, Oh, I’m signing up for hypnotherapy.

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Michelle Murphy: and, as I described before, I was a pretty numb person like, I didn’t cry, not even when my children were born. So I was pretty kind of like.

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Michelle Murphy: you know, bland with my emotions. But when he said that

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Michelle Murphy: something weird happened, and I kind of left my desk, went outside and burst into tears, and I thought that response was so weird that I had to listen to it.

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Michelle Murphy: And so I did listen to it. It wasn’t easy, because I wasn’t the kind of person who would take risks at all. I was very much in lack and scarcity. So, leaving my bookkeeping business, or any of those things, was like

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Michelle Murphy: by trauma.

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Michelle Murphy: So to actually even take that first step to answer the call was a big was a big deal. It was a lot of money. I hid that from my husband. until the very last moment when I kind of had to share a bit of that, and I did the course.

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Michelle Murphy: But

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Michelle Murphy: when I got to the end of the course I was still little old me with low self esteem,, so I couldn’t so hang my shingle out and and do the work I thought hypnotherapy is not enough. I’ll do an energy

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Michelle Murphy: modality on top of that. So I went looking for that, keeping up my bookkeeping business, and I ended up landing in a mystery school where I worked with a guru for 8 years, and it was through those I is that I was kind of pulled apart where I went on that path of love, and when I say, pulled apart.

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Michelle Murphy: we have layers and layers and layers all patterning, and the fears and the blocks, and that mystery school, and that modality was all about cleaning. We will kind of like the cosmic clean as the energy cleaners. So it was like playing out the junk for 8 years, and softening and dissolving that hard layer that was numbing me.

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Michelle Murphy: and finding you know that love within that was occurring through those 8 years, and then I became ready.

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Michelle Murphy: and was still scary as hell, but that I became really I was more confident. I had more self esteem to start

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Michelle Murphy: the shift, and then maybe another. 2 years later, I completely left my job and and did this full time for about 7 years now.

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Michelle Murphy: So. Yeah, that pivitol moment was that reaction in my body that I I stopped and listened, for I don’t know the first time ever to that soul nudge.

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Michelle Murphy: And so that’s yeah. I mean, it wasn’t exciting, you know, wam bam overnight, but

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Michelle Murphy: when I look back there was

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Michelle Murphy: it was me taking a chance on me and and doing something that I love, that I now know i love. Yeah.

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Megan Mary: I love the me taking the chance on me. Because who better to take a chance on? Right? I mean, you have to.

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Megan Mary: You have to do it. And I also love the cosmic cleansing part, because I think when you start into this work, you you you know the lights kind of shine, and you feel like you’ve you’ve made it. And then you realize that actually, there’s all this stuff. Now, it’s going to start pouring out that you have to deal with. And you really do have to peel back all those layers of the onion to get

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to that

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Megan Mary: truth at the core, that everything else around you is

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Megan Mary: craftily hiding. I mean very well put there to hide and obscure and distract.

Michelle Murphy:So yes, and I think it’s important to note that that bit underneath was never broken.

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Michelle Murphy: Right? We’re not broken. We don’t need to be fixed per se. We need to get rid of the illusion that we need to be fixed, which was all those layers which took me a while to learn that too. You know. I was so focused on cleaning, fixing, cleaning, fixing all this. Another thing, another thing, instead of just when we allow the light to kind of just keep coming in and dissolving and dissolving much easier pathway. But that took me a little, you know. I had to learn.

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Megan Mary: Of course, I mean, it’s a journey. It’s it’s not a destination is a journey. It’s never ending, you know, while we’re here, anyway, or even while we’re not here before we were here. It’s it’s all part of the journey.

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Michelle Murphy: Absolutely. Yeah.

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Megan Mary: So what role have dreams played in your journey? If at all?

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Michelle Murphy: I dream a lot. But I don’t think.

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Michelle Murphy: And and maybe I need to come to an expert like you. I don’t think my dreams are prophetic. I feel like a lot of my dreams are processing. It’s processing the data, processing the emotions

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Michelle Murphy: and the unconscious stuff that’s going on. So I’ll have the weirdest and wildest wackiest crazy dreams. But that’ll be about my fears, or about something that’s going on.

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Michelle Murphy: So I do a lot of processing in my dreams. and I will say that I feel that

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Michelle Murphy: this was something that kind of helped me along the way, too, because I can have some sort of very terrifying dreams as well that feel so real.

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And I remember my teacher once telling me that sometimes, when you have enough in the grace bank

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Michelle Murphy: that you can clear some of your karma that may have well played out in a real life

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Michelle Murphy: in your dreams. And so sometimes I believe some of those dreams might be, you know, working out some of that karma. So you know they they might be bit nasty, but I’d rather have it in your dream than in the real life. So I accept that as part of the process as well. But

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Michelle Murphy: yeah, I I haven’t delved in a lot to be honest. into what my dreams mean or what’s going on. But I do feel they’re very processy.

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Megan Mary: Yeah. And I think that that’s a very common

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Megan Mary: feeling about dreams. Is that Well, I I don’t know. I you you try to explain them by saying by seeing the similarities and saying, Well, I dreamt of that because I was just at the store. And I was doing this. And I watched that movie last night, and I was just doing talking about this with someone so. And but you do a lot of things in your daily life, and you’re not dreaming about all of those things. So I think that your subconscious

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it just saves everything. But then it picks certain things, and then it puts it together into a little story that is very specific and very.

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Megan Mary: It’s supposed to be just for you and I. I think that even probably myself. Sometimes I’ll just try to explain it away, because there’s some obviousness that you can put on to it. But once you start really doing the analysis, you realize, oh.

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Megan Mary: right, there’s this whole other underlying layer to it.

Michelle Murphy: That’s the agenda that’s coming up behind the scenes. Yeah, I do. I. You know I agree that it’s those unresolved pieces of the puzzle that wandering around and and actually glimpse it’s another glimpse of that shadow world that is going on underneath. for you to pay attention to, and I’m very much aware of if I wake up.

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Michelle Murphy: In fact, I did some meditation on it, because I would sometimes wake up feeling like I’ve been through the mill

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Michelle Murphy: and and wake up and go. My God, I’m anxious and frightened, or heavy, or after that night, you know, and, like Gosh! Can I? I thought sleep is supposed to be restful and wonderful, and

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Michelle Murphy: some restorative. And so I’ve really learnt to kind of acknowledge whatever emotion was going on, so that I could sort of dive in a little bit, and then do some tapping or releasing of of that heaviness that I’ve woken up with. Because, yeah, it’s not a great way to start the day sometimes. And

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Michelle Murphy: yeah, that’s happened to me more than once.

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Megan Mary: Yes, I call that the dream hangover, because you really do feel

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Megan Mary: the residual emotional effects of it. It doesn’t go away because you’re as far as your body is concerned. It did happen as well as far as your emotions are concerned, and that part of your your mind That process it. It did happen, and and so your your logical mind knows it didn’t. But when you’re dreaming, your logical mind is turned off. And so.

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Megan Mary: as far as your concerned emotionally, it did. And you’re right. You think that it’s dreams are supposed to be just restful, but restorative can be also an aspect of healing and and healing can also be

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Megan Mary: some darkness. Right? Sometimes you go through that dark to get to the light. And so, yeah, I think that that’s obvious. It’s part of it’s part of the package. But I like what you said about applying other modalities afterwards, because I feel that that’s really important. I don’t want to just

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Megan Mary: expose a a latent fear in someone and then say, Well, that’s what it is, bye.

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Megan Mary: you have to work it through. You have to have all these other healing modalities to process it, address it, get rid of the the dark, bring in the light and

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Megan Mary: help the analysis

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Megan Mary: align yourself better. You want to energetically align better, and you work with energy. So you you would know very well how to help yourself with that which is fabulous

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Michelle Murphy: which is which is good for me. Yeah, yeah. But I think it’s as simple as getting the awareness. you know, maybe through journaling, which you probably even recommend in your work, is sort of general, what you’re feeling at that time, and you know we don’t have to know the full story. It’s just one of my left feeling at the end of that, like.

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Michelle Murphy: you know. Do I feel guilty, or is it relief. Is it fear? Whatever it was, and then sort of tap into what was going on there?

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Megan Mary: Yes, absolutely. And so that’s that’s one of the key pieces of my method is

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Megan Mary: the the memory and the mood are 2, 2 of the 4 parts. And so you remember the dream, and you journal it, and you remember the mood and the mood is really the key to the meaning. You can’t have the meaning without the mood. And if you, if you, if you can’t really remember it, you need to amplify it. You need to try and go back and really amplify that emotion, because the emotion is where that really

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Megan Mary: tells you what it’s about.

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Michelle Murphy: Yeah. yeah. big stuff.

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Megan Mary: So what’s your favorite thing about what you do?

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Michelle Murphy: Oh, my favorite thing is really diving into those shadows with somebody else. Not so much with me. but diving into those shadows to get to unmask that really core

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Michelle Murphy: block that core issue, that I I call it like the point of creation and the point of destruction, because it’s where you created the pattern or the lie and started to shift away for your authenticity and the destruction of that authenticity and truth of who you were so, it’s that that pivotal moment, and

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Michelle Murphy: actually bringing it into the awareness. And then going oh, my gosh! The a ha moment in the client’s face! And then that freedom! That they have a choice Now

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Michelle Murphy: they can choose to continue to repeat all of that, and to live that that belief about themselves, or we can help them shift through that. And that’s a very empowered place for them to be in, and it’s just like

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Michelle Murphy: that that relief in there that oh, my God! The shifting paradigm love it every time I love it, you know, and and I think because I lived in fear for so long, and still do struggle with fear myself

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Michelle Murphy: to help people get out of that fear, because I know how crippling it is. you know it breaks my heart to say really

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Michelle Murphy: passionate people stuck behind this wall of Oh, I can’t be seen it, you know, and I think there’s a block. And yes, there is, metaphorically but literally there isn’t, because there is nothing wrong with you and

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Michelle Murphy: and to and to see the heartbreak in them. Then, you know, really, breaks my heart. So I love to be able to shift that around. Yeah, for sure.

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Megan Mary: that’s awesome.

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What are common misconceptions people have about what you do.

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Michelle Murphy: Yeah, that’s a hard one. Actually. I think one of the misconceptions is especially with readings, because I do tap into the akashic records, and I think one of those misconceptions is that

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Michelle Murphy: I am a clairvoyant, I’m psychic, whilst I’m very intuitive, andn I do clairvoyant skills and things. It’s not what I’m about. And I am really about that deep dive, deep, deep, deep, transformational healing. And I think sometimes people might be the wrong client really for me, because they may come to me, and I start to unravel.

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Michelle Murphy: And what’s going on. And they? They? They don’t want to go, there they just want to tell me the answer, the answer. That doesn’t mean they have to do any work. It’s like a magic bullet, and I think sometimes people think that the energy work is just going to be easy

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Michelle Murphy: and not traumatic, and and and sometimes it is easy, but other times we we have to face ourselves, and we have to

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Michelle Murphy: to undo the things that we have felt have protected us all this time. So I think they sometimes think that I’m going to have the answer

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Michelle Murphy: to all their issues that they’re not going to have to think about it or do the work.

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Michelle Murphy: and so not true. Do not come to me because it will be a deep dive journey, where I may have to shatter your paradigms and rebuild you.

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Michelle Murphy: So yeah, I think that’s probably the biggest one.

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Megan Mary: Yeah. And I think that that we share. We share the same challenges all, all of the healing community, because people come and they what they just want a quick fix, or they just want

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Megan Mary: you to be able to identify something and take it away.

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Megan Mary: and that they would be yeah, and they don’t. And then when you kind of hit on something you hit on that nerve, you, you bring up something that does

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Megan Mary: resonate. Then it’s that moment of, Oh, yeah, okay, it’s that. I don’t really want to talk about that. Yeah. And and then, you know, it’s the difficulty of of shadow work or any kind of work where you’re delving into the self because all of those things are coming from the subconscious. And

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Megan Mary: so you have to be willing to do that work. You have to be willing to go down that path. Yes.

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Megan Mary: Oh, and for our listeners, that don’t know what the akashic record is. If you could just explain that really quickly, since you’re the first person to bring it up on the podcast I want to make sure

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Michelle Murphy: love to love to. So the akashic records, is a frequency of energy, and there are many, many books on it, many teachers on it, and this is my personal experience of it, and how I work with it. So

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Michelle Murphy: I’m not particularly anything anybody else does and how they describe it. But it is a frequency of energy that we merge with.

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Michelle Murphy: which is a high frequency. It’s a frequency of love and gratitude. And we merge with that. And within that frequency we can access every single experience, every relationship, every a moment in our soul journey.

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Michelle Murphy: and in in any past moment, potential moments, potential future moments. And so we can gather that from what they, you know, sometimes term a library of information.

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Michelle Murphy: and within that we will find out the answers to these patterns. And you know why we might have this negative reaction to someone when we meet for the first time, because we’ve had an interaction in the past life. all this information, even information about your business. It has its own records. Your body

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Michelle Murphy: modalities can be downloaded. You can have sessions with ascended masters. It’s like infinite potential in the akashic records, but the important, I think distinction between that and perhaps the psychic reading is it’s the psychic readings tend to work on

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Michelle Murphy: this incarnation and this physical energy body and what’s going on and floating around in your energy body, because all your thoughts and all your beliefs are floating around in your body. So if you’re thinking about moving and and stressing about that, then it’s sitting there in your aura

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Michelle Murphy: but the akashic records a taking on the whole soul journey, including this lifetime and seeing where the impact of something in the past is impacting this lifetime. That’s the how. Way I work with it, anyway. So it’s this frequency of energy that when we connect with it’s like a portal into all this information about you.

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Megan Mary: that’s a great explanation. Yeah, I’ve heard the library definition, and I like Portal much better because I feel like

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Megan Mary: it exemplifies what you’re what you’re going to access. And it’s not linear, and it’s not restrictive to this 3D World. And it’s not

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Michelle Murphy: something that you can just visualize. It’s the whole energy system. So I think that.

Michelle Murphy: And it’s not outside of ourselves. So sometimes, if I say it’s a field of energy, I feel like we’re going to put it out there, you know, or if it’s a library in the sky. Or it’s it’s because it’s not. It’s if we think of frequency, the frequency of love, the frequency is within us. It’s within our cells. It’s within the water. It’s within the nature.

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Michelle Murphy: They akashic records are everywhere, so it’s more about matching the frequency than going somewhere outside of you sort of thing.

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Megan Mary: Yeah, yeah. And I like, I like thinking about

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Megan Mary: just the practical applications of frequencies many times, because it makes it so much more accessible to people. When you talk about music, for example, it’s a frequency when you talk about radio waves, when you talk about Wi-fi, when you think of how much frequencies are surrounding us in our daily life that are affecting us, that we may or may not be aware of.

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Megan Mary: and that when you, when you realize that it doesn’t seem so.

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Megan Mary: woo so separate or so intangible. Because you go. Oh, yeah, we are surrounded by waves and electromagnetic waves and

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Megan Mary: waves and other things all the time. And then

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Michelle Murphy: literally, like the Internet, you know, I mean, we’re tapping into those bandwaves to find out information. So it’s it’s kind of like a different way of doing that. It’s it’s just a

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Michelle Murphy: maybe I’ll say a higher level, I, you know, don’t even want to make that unattainable. it’s just a different frequency, but getting the information just the same.

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Megan Mary: So what if you were to I? We talked a lot about

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Megan Mary: getting over fear and fear is one of the the biggest things that stops us from actualizing our purpose, from aligning ourselves with our business.

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Megan Mary: from going out beyond ourselves to do the work that we’re call to do, to share our gifts, to realize our gifts, and what are ways, that people, what are things that people should stop doing, and what you people start doing in order to get past those hurdles and start down that path of enlightenment.

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Michelle Murphy: I think

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Michelle Murphy: there has to be some work on.

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Michelle Murphy: We have to stop abandoning ourselves.

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Michelle Murphy: you know. I I think I think that is

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Michelle Murphy: perhaps a little bit down the track with it. But ultimately we have to recognize when we’re Abandoning ourselves at some point we have to start walking that path of self love

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Michelle Murphy: and that, and and being aware of all the times for abandoning ourselves, we help us start to create those boundaries that are so important

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Michelle Murphy: in understanding where you end, and the other person ends. And

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Michelle Murphy: you know there’s such an important distinction when you’re able to become aware of that, so that that path of self Love has, to begin with yeses for you, you know, and to really choose You put yourself first, and that could be so difficult for people who have used a pattern pleasing

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Michelle Murphy: personality to support themselves and protect themselves. So it’s unraveling of all of that. So

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Michelle Murphy: stop abandoning yourself, start loving your self stop putting yourself first and creating boundaries. is really, really the tools that you’re gonna help.

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Michelle Murphy: is that they want everything to be perfect. They want to fix themselves first before they’ll get started. And I think that’s that’s

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Michelle Murphy: it’s really a recipe for disaster, because we never get to fix ourselves. Every time we expand we’re going to hit that wall. So because if I could describe it like this with energy coming in.

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Michelle Murphy: and it trickles in. It’s like a really low voltage bulb in a dark room, and all you can see is this tiny puddle of light on the floor. and when we start to clean up.

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Michelle Murphy: our light gets brighter.

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Michelle Murphy: and so it’s a it’s a 60 watt bulb! And what happens is that puddle of light expands. And so we go. Oh, my God! I cleaned all that up. And now I can see the next area to clean, and we get brighter. And you know this, this journey of cleaning and cleansing and cleaning never stops because we get brighter, we see more. And and so

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Michelle Murphy: thinking that you’re going to get to this point where you’re going to feel confident to start, or you’re going to feel good enough to start. I mean, that is really frustrating.

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Michelle Murphy: What else can I say about that? And and the same same flavor of that is that. you know, like we we’ve been, we’ve talked about before is that

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Michelle Murphy: this perfectionism thing and the belief that we have never going to feel anxious or nervous when we’re trying something new, like, I was nervous to come on here on the podcast it’s not quite

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Michelle Murphy: the same format I would use in my life because I I’m in control of that. I’m not in control of this right? So there was a level of nervousness. So do I never do a podcast. Or become a guest.

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Michelle Murphy: ybecause I don’t feel like, I’ve got to a point where I’ve got that down pat, right? So I see that as well. People believe all you look confident. No, I was freaking nervous before I came on, and so it’s that

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Michelle Murphy: belief that we’re not enough right now to start believing you are good enough right now.

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Michelle Murphy: and stop waiting. It’s like future pacing. always future pacing into that. When I am. then I can do it. When I’ve done this, when I’ve got this

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Michelle Murphy: I’m going to experiment. I’m going to try. It takes a hell of a lot of courage.

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Michelle Murphy: and I applaud you and celebrate you and all of those things along the way. But yeah, I think there’s some of the concepts we really have to get our head around.

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Megan Mary: Yes, those are so such valuable advice. You have to just do it, and not

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Megan Mary: not let all those doubts come in because they will be there, and, as you say in your meditation, they will be there tomorrow. You can just go to sleep and let them go for now, because they’ll be there tomorrow. Don’t worry. They’ll wait for you, but you gotta just let them go. And I I totally appreciate about being nervous. I appreciate about being a perfectionist. I I’m an enneagram 3. And I’m an Introvert. And I

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Megan Mary: you know I’m it’s been so much to overcome this, and I normally would have all my ducks in a row, and everything would be perfect, and that will never happen. so I would never do it.

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Megan Mary: And so. getting over that hump has been enormous. But the feedback that I have gotten, and the connections that I’ve made, and the realizations and the things that I’m exchanging, and that I’m learning

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Megan Mary: far out weigh Any doubt or fear or apprehension I may have had, and it’s almost like a drug that it keeps getting better and better, and the more I let myself out of that that release those doubts and go past the fear the better it gets, and that has been really rewarding. And I hope everyone else

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Megan Mary: we’ll follow that path as well, and not wait, not wait to be what it is you’ve put on a pedestal.

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Michelle Murphy: that’s the thing is, we’re retraining our nervous system we’re we giving our ego because our ego is this immature ego 9 times out of 10 because we have

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Michelle Murphy: given it We’ve advocated our responsibilities and said ego protect me right? And it’s kind of given it the job description of being the operations manager and the CEO at the same time. So it goes. Oh, that’s hard. Let’s stop it, right? So we’ve got to re program by taking these little little mighty steps and feeling like, Hey, that worked that time I can try it again. And we’re giving our nervous system new data

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Michelle Murphy: to work with, because it always works on past data. So yeah, we’re retraining our nervous system.

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Megan Mary: Yes, absolutely. And it’s it’s a fabulous journey.

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Megan Mary: What’s next for you in in your journey?

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Michelle Murphy: I’ve been dabbling around in the online space for a few years. And it’s now I’m just gonna consolidate that. And just really like that is the way forward for me. so I am launching a new course this month. Fingers crossed on how to work with the akashic records. So it’s interesting that we spoke about that today, and and just working out how to work more in the group.

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Michelle Murphy: setting as well as the one to one setting, so that I can touch more people just just getting out there with a a clear, strong message. to really help as many people as I can. So in a bigger, more expansive way.

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Megan Mary: So that sounds very exciting. Yay, where can people find you online if they want to work with you?

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Michelle Murphy: Yeah. So I’m on most of the platforms. but I most

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Michelle Murphy: current right at this moment where I’m focusing my attention is on insight timer. That’s where I do live. Once or twice a week. So you can find me there under Michelle Murphy and I do lives. I have some courses up there already, and lots of meditations.

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Michelle Murphy: And I’m also on Facebook, kalidevienergetics is my business name. So you can find me at my website. kalidevienergetics.com

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Michelle Murphy: and Instagram. Facebook

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Michelle Murphy: and I have a a private group in Facebook called Soul Chats. So you’re always welcome to come there where we do some some fun Fridays, and some master classes, and fun things there. So I’m I’m on all pretty much, all of them, except Linkedin.

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Megan Mary: yes, well, great I I will put all of those links in the show notes so everyone can find you.

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Megan Mary: And and I really really appreciate you being here today overcoming your, you know everybody has it, and admitting to that just makes everyone else feel more human. We all have it. We all must overcome it. We all must get there to where we need to be, so that we can share with everyone else. And so they can hear

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Megan Mary: what we’ve gone through and what we’ve realized and what we have to offer. And that’s really what this podcast is about. So I just want to thank you again for

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Megan Mary: outside of that, and being here and sharing with us.

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Michelle Murphy: Thank you. Thank you for letting me share and being a part of your journey. Thanks so much. Yes, thank you.