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okay welcome so today we have Carolyn

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Wallace she is

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l-i-c-sw a psychotherapist spiritual

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director and archetypal consultant with

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almost 20 years of experience guiding

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people through the process of

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transformation through archetypal

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Consulting sessions speaking and writing

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she helps spiritual women stand in their

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own authority with Unapologetic radiant

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confidence

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tap into their unique Soul blueprint and

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activate their Highest Potential through

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the power of archetypes

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she is also a certified yoga teacher

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dance teacher and Reiki master

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welcome Carolyn thank you for being here

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today

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thank you for having me Megan I so

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appreciate you being here it’s always

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wonderful to speak with another woman

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that’s uplifting other women and

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living a helping them live a Radiant

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Life right so your business is called

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radiant life

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oh you are Radiant Life your Radiant

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Life yes most people tell her that they

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have their own Radiant Life not anybody

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else is their own their with their own

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authority that they can claim it as

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theirs perfect perfect

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um my first question uh is going to be

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um what does Enlightenment mean to you

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so that’s a big question

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means to me

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is we all are here on this planet living

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our lives and we are living in

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some degree of expansion or contraction

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at any given moment

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and what enlightened means to me is how

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expansive how full can we make our lives

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as we’re living them here on this planet

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so Cynthia Bourgeois one of my spiritual

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teachers has an image of you know when

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you when you see a crescent moon just a

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sliver of a moon up in the sky and then

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but you can really see the outline of

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the whole Moon it just only some of it

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is lit and the rest of it is dark but

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you can see like almost the potential

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for the whole moon to be lighted up she

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says as we do our spiritual work as we

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do our shadow work as we make the effort

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to come into better versions of

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ourselves we can become more and more

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light

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that that that

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circle of the Moon that we can see up in

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the sky can become a little more

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brighter and brighter each time we

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overcome something or don’t react in a

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way that would be our default way or

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what if we do react we go back and see

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what we have done wrong so that we can

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do better than next time so I think that

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is the process of becoming more

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enlightened and we’ll see how far we get

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in each of our lifetimes yes that’s a

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beautiful metaphor I love them the

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metaphor of the moon for enlightenment I

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mean it’s because that that shadow part

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on the moon is part of the whole it’s

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part of the whole circle and we we exist

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with it and we need to integrate with it

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and we need to make it part of our our

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wholeness so that we can shine

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just as the moon does yeah through the

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phases that we that we go through as

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women

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good yeah yeah

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it’s all the unconscious Parts being

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exposed and as we work with Fuller and

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brighter and more radiant yes well I

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that’s I love that

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so tell us about your Enlightenment

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journey and what brought you to create

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your Radiant Life

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well that’s a big question my

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Enlightenment Journey

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you know I there’s so many different

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pieces but I think the piece that really

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put me on the track that I am on today

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was when I was in my early 30s and I had

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a year-long experience of this

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devastating

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uh shoulder back pain sciatica pain and

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I had been a very very healthy person I

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did a lot of biking I was living in

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Washington DC at the time a lot of

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bicycling

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um some backpacking hiking just a busy

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life I had just started my yoga studies

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knew that I wanted to be a yoga teacher

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really on a good trip I woke up one

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morning and I could barely move my body

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it was a um just this terrible like

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almost like a frozen shoulder but then

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it traveled down my back became sciatica

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for one full year it stayed with me I

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call that my year of being handicapped

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it was you know a year actually to the

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day from when I got well again so I

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think that whole process really made me

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think about life in a different way and

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really

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really highlighted the fact that well

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while my physical body can can be sort

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of ahead of the game my emotional body

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was not up to par with where my physical

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body was at the time and I wasn’t going

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to be able to progress in life until my

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emotional body had caught up with my

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physical body so my physical body kind

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of shut down to give my emotional body a

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chance to catch up

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out of here but then after that I knew

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that there was more to life there was

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more this symbology there was more just

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like

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setting a goal and going after it and

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reaching it there was there was more to

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life than that

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absolutely that’s that’s a that’s a a

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very uh poignant story because I think

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so many women have gone through that and

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I I know I have as well so

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um just that analogy of your your body

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breaking down or saying I I’ve gone as

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far as I can go now you need to go in

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and start doing that inner work for us

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to continue that’s right yeah that

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didn’t become here for a while and I

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just felt incredibly victimized for most

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of that year you know not understanding

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that concept but yeah when I finally I

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record the concept thing started to turn

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around yes yes yes and I’ve I’ve uh I’ve

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heard listened to some of your talks and

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um you talk about the victim actually

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being one of the archetypes and so I’d

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like you to talk a little bit more about

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that and as well as the the shadow piece

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tell me more about the archetype work

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that you do and how that leads women to

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Spiritual Awakening

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well um we all have access to archetypes

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and there’s hundreds of them that exist

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in the collective unconscious and I’ve

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studied uh with Carolyn mace her program

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sacred contracts and so the way her

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program is is set up is that we each

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have four that are the same for all of

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us and then the rest of the eight so we

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have 12 in total the rest of the eight

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are individual to each of us so there’s

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the four that we have in common are

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called the Survivor archetypes and the

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victim is one of those Survivor

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archetypes so we can all relate to the

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victim because we all have it and the

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victim is one that I know very well in

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my life and in its um unenlightened

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state in the shadow State the victim

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feels like there’s some oppressive Force

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just keeping them down not allowing them

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to move forward with their life or not

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allowing them to have the things they

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want to have and they people who are

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stuck in the shadow in the victim

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um really believe that this is true and

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so they can start to feel sorry for

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themselves they can start to talk to all

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their friends about how hard their life

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is and their friends will get on board

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and say oh yes isn’t that terrible so

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that’s how they gain a little bit of

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power like look at it look at me

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everyone I’m really being victimized

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here and people like Get on Board and

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agree with you and that’s a way to that

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you can have power or alternatively you

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can become uh blaming and blame the

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person or circumstance that you think is

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oppressing you so these are all the way

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the victim in the shadow can be

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expressed and so when you start to take

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a step forward maybe a step forward into

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Enlightenment a little bit we call this

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stepping into the Kairos phase of

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Consciousness you start to say wait a

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I am certainly the creator of my life

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is there a way I could be thinking about

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this

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that is more empowering what what

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responsibility do I need to take here

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for being in this victim what are some

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steps forward I can take or do I care

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about this identity as the victim so

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much that I’m not willing to change you

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know that could be the case but if

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you’re wanting more for your life you’re

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wanting empowerment you’re wanting to

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create instead of being a victim then

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you have to start thinking what are the

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steps I need to take where can I have

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boundaries and what the victim does is

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she can take on a warrior type energy a

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warrior quality where you can start to

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protect yourself from not only the

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things outside of you that you feel like

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maybe impressed oppressing you but also

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your own thought process so you can

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start to say instead of saying oh I’m

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not allowed to have this you can say I

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will not allow this to continue and you

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can say it firmly you can say it a

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hundred times a day I will not allow

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this and sometimes it’s against someone

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or something or a circumstance but but a

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lot of times it’s against our own

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thoughts if I catch myself in victim

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mode which I find myself in quite often

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before I even realize I’m doing it I

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tell myself to knock it off what’s a

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more empowering thought and that becomes

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my process who’s who’s waiting here do I

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want the victim to be leading or do I

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want this Warrior energy to be leading

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and ultimately where the warrior leads

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us is to the highest light of the victim

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archetype which is called the guardian

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of self-esteem and the guardian of

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self-esteem knows that she can protect

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herself she can protect herself from her

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own thoughts she can say I will not

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allow without harming anyone else she

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can have very strong boundaries without

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attacking

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and be the creator of her life

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so that’s kind of the trajectory of the

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warrior archetype I mean I’m sorry dumb

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archetype the victim

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and the the warrior is the second stage

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before the guardian of self

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like that but I think it’s an easy way

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to look at it’s easy way to break it

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down

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and it’s that transition into that that

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self-empowerment

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um then sort of standing holding that

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space for yourself when you when you

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then become your your own Guardian your

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own guidance essentially

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yeah and what’s cool about when you get

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to the guardian of self-esteem we call

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that the cosmic level of consciousness

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so we make choices our individual

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choices and efforts are the Kairos level

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of Consciousness which is where the

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warrior who creating the boundaries

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exists when the Kairos when we step into

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the Kairos level of Consciousness it’s

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not just all us anymore there’s a Divine

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quality that comes in that kind of rides

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on the coattails of our efforts so the

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guardian of self-esteem has a Divine

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quality that we can’t create ourselves

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as humans we can do the work in Kairos

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but then the divine

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potential comes in through the efforts

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of our individual work and kind of meets

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us halfway and then creates life in a

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much bigger and better way than we could

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have ever even imagined for ourselves

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I I like that because it sounds like

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very much connecting with the higher

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self which is

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is an it’s it’s it is another realm

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although it is inside you

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um and you can’t you have to you have to

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be prepared and open yourself to

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connecting with that to a retain the the

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gifts it has for you

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Carolyn mace calls that uh it happens in

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your ninth chakra which is what she

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describes as the Chaka above your head

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and it’s this the chakra where we have

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symbolic sight which I think dreams

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would probably fit into that as well

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yes and all of the things that that all

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the recurring patterns that might be

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represented in the archetypes and all of

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the the default

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reactionary behavioral patterns all of

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that lies within the subconscious

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because it’s the initial way that our

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our psychology and our identity was

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formed when we were younger and all of

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those things dictate how we perceive the

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world today and when we dream those come

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out in the form of stories and in

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metaphorical aspects and speak to us

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about what we might not be addressing in

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our Waking Life and I feel like there’s

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a lot of correlation between the

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archetypes and what is represented in

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the dreams

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um young talked about archetypes as well

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of course and I think that that’s

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just in that same way of looking at it

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in terms of the the Synergy between

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what we might not be aware of

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um but what is actually influencing Our

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Lives

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that’s right but we’re unconscious of a

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lot of

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our behaviors and patterns as you were

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saying we call that the Kronos level of

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consciousness

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we’re not even aware we’re doing it I

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could spend I could sit in a meditation

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in the morning with the intention of

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tapping into my Divine potential and

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realize that I just spent the past 30

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minutes in Kronos in victim mode

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and it won’t even occur to me until I

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get up from my meditation and then I

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like whoa okay there was some time that

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I could have used differently and you

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know for the rest of my day I’m gonna

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step into a different level of

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Consciousness and do my very best to

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watch out for that

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and how do you help your clients

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transform that that pattern that they

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find themselves in

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I think becoming conscious of the

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pattern is the first step because

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without Consciousness there’s nothing we

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can change

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and you know when you start to do

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regular meditations when you start to

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read The Works of enlightened people

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there’s a you know there’s a way that

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you start to feel and it feels different

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from being in the shadow of a victim or

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the shadow of your own Saboteur energy

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where you sabotage yourself or the

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victim of when the the feeling of when

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you’re a child it feels different it

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feels more oppressive it feels

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um

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maybe more angry or or more withdrawn or

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more depressed so the more we can

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practice feeling better feeling

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empowered

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um that’s when we start to notice okay

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here I am in Kronos this is the way I’m

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feeling now I must be in a Kronos energy

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let me see what I can do to step forward

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to become more in Kairos energy where

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I’m actively taking responsibility for

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my thoughts and feelings and behaviors

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and I actually wrote a meditation and I

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actually have a recording too and on my

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website uh it’s going to be my new

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website is coming I think next week it’s

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um your

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radiantlife.net there’s going to be you

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can download my free meditation called

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Unleash Your Inner inner Diva for free

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um because what I want people to do is

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start to practice feeling like

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if if diva is not your word it doesn’t

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have to be that but this this meditation

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is for people who want to remember what

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it’s like to imagine themselves imagine

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that you walked into a room and you knew

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you looked the part and you knew you

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looked good and people were gonna listen

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to you and value your opinion and that

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you had did not have to tolerate people

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wasting your time for example and you

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took on this Diva quality I would like

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people to practice that I know I needed

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to do that when I was first starting out

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and sometimes I still need to go back to

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it so when you start practicing that and

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walk around for a few hours of your day

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feeling like you are Diva or a goddess

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or whatever it is that you want to

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invoke then very quickly you start

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notice when you’re not being that

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and then that’s your cue okay here I am

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I’m back in Kronos I’m back being

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unconscious where’s my diva meditation

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I’m gonna pull it out change my energy

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change my pattern and go through the

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rest of my day as best I can in a more

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empowered state

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I have a question about the the warrior

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State and how it’s different from

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necessarily an anger state

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yes so what the warrior does in this

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context it doesn’t attack or harm it

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only protects it has strong boundaries

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and I think sometimes I’m myself

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included when women are not used to

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having boundaries when we start to take

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on boundaries we feel like we’re being

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mean

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but that’s actually not the case having

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boundaries is our Birthright saying No

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thank you I am not interested in

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continuing to date someone or I’m not

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interested in being treated such a way

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or no I’m not interested in this

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particular salary I’d like this higher

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salary when you have boundaries

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we’re allowed to have boundaries we’ve

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just been conditioned to think that

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that’s being aggressive or that’s being

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mean or that’s being too much when it’s

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it’s simply our Birthright to say what

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you will accept and tolerate and what

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you will not it can be very simple

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without a whole lot of drama around any

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of it

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but I think it’s conditioning that we

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have to you know that’s another

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unconscious pattern that we have to step

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out of

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on your website you mentioned the the

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spiritual transformation through the

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alchemical power of the archetypes and

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I’d like I’d like that phrasing and I

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wanted to have you speak a little bit

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more about the alchemical power

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well that’s a yeah that could be a whole

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book in itself well what an alchemist

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does is takes some kind of Earthly

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substance like lead

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and add some kind of heat or fire to it

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and then whatever else they do with this

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substance and it can become radiant gold

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right

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so that’s what we’re doing with our

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subconscious default patterns it’s like

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we can think of them as a piece of lead

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that’s not very helpful it’s not really

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helping anything but when we add maybe

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some fire some heat some transformative

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process like when I was handicapped for

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that year

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you know that put me through so like

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that was that was a big one and I know

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we all have those stories right kind of

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pushes you and the and the process isn’t

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always very pleasant can be very painful

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it can hurt it can be emotionally

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painful think of a butterfly I mean a

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caterpillar just sort of disintegrating

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into the Cocoon that’s an alchemical

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process and when the when the

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caterpillar is disintegrated and it’s

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Chrysalis it probably doesn’t feel all

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that wonderful about itself it’s that

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doesn’t know what’s coming but then when

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it emerges as the butterfly it’s bigger

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and better and far more beautiful than

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it was before it went into the Chrysalis

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but it had to go through an alchemical

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process to get there

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and that’s what we’re talking about here

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it’s the the alchemical process of our

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own transformation and the sacrifice of

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our own transformation that brings that

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cosmic energy to us

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I love the metaphor of the butterfly

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that’s

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so true

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so what’s your favorite thing about what

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you do working with archetypes and

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helping women

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my favorite thing is what I do when

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people enter my 90-day program I have a

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90-day archetypal transformation program

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um called elevate your voice and purpose

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is when I lead people through choosing

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their 12 archetypes and we cast them in

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the archetypal wheel so in an archetypal

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wheel it’s the same as the astrological

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wheel there’s 12 houses

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and when we see each of their 12

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archetypes fall into each house which is

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a separate area of your life like

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distinct areas of your life

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and we start to talk about each area of

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your life how this archetype Works in

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this particular area of your life and

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how it shows up in a shadow and how what

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are the potential for it showing up in

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the light and as you start to go around

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this chart it takes um my program is

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about 13 weeks long

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it it it almost leaps off the page what

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their life is the potential for what

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their life could really be about and it

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happens every time I work with a woman

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and they’re oh look in my first house I

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have I have this but in my fourth house

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I have this and look how that can work

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together when we get around to the 10th

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house which is your Highest Potential

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and look at all how all of these

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archetypes work together to create

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something just so beautiful that they

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never realized they had

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they had it within their graphs grasp to

543
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be all of those things

544
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um that’s the my favorite part of this

545
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work when you see it Landing in

546
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someone’s eyes and the energy just

547
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changes

548
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that that’s their Divine Life the

549
00:23:10,440 –> 00:23:14,059
potential for their Divine Life

550
00:23:14,580 –> 00:23:19,559
that sounds that sounds amazing it

551
00:23:16,919 –> 00:23:21,179
sounds very insightful the the process

552
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itself and

553
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I think that just like you said it’s

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inside it’s inside everyone it’s just

555
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how you get there how you figure out

556
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what your true potential is and

557
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what you’re missing and also probably

558
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what you’re not embracing

559
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and what stories are you willing to let

560
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go of in order to get there

561
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right the things that you’ve defined

562
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yourself with told yourself this is how

563
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this is my life story and then almost

564
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pigeonholed yourself into the living

565
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that one

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path because that’s what you’ve told

567
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yourself and that’s what you told

568
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everyone else so that must be what it is

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yes yes I used to be someone who used to

570
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say oh I could never have any kind of a

571
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job in the public eye I have too much

572
00:24:16,740 –> 00:24:20,640
anxiety for that and that was the end of

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the story I have too much anxiety to

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ever do that

575
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and uh that was a story I told myself

576
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and my life was much more limited when I

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00:24:26,400 –> 00:24:32,640
told myself that story now that I’ve

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made choices to think differently and to

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realize there’s more potential for my

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life can break out of the old pattern

581
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and it’s not that it’s easy

582
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you need a lot of courage to break out

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of your old patterns but then the world

584
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can just open up when the cosmic comes

585
00:24:44,880 –> 00:24:48,299
rushing in

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think oh I never realized life could be

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as good as this

588
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yes and I completely resonate with that

589
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being an introvert and being afraid to

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be out there and feeling that same way

591
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and realizing that the only way anyone

592
00:25:01,919 –> 00:25:06,659
was ever going to hear my voice or hear

593
00:25:04,679 –> 00:25:10,740
what I had to say is if I had the

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courage and overcame that and I think

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that you you talk about that on your

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site

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um or somewhere I read that you said

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when the universe sees us taking those

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steps of courage and striving even when

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it’s scary then we achieve the cosmic

601
00:25:24,779 –> 00:25:30,779
level of Consciousness it’s an

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00:25:26,880 –> 00:25:36,360
invitation for the cosmic to come in

603
00:25:30,779 –> 00:25:37,740
right that’s right and I really yeah

604
00:25:36,360 –> 00:25:40,559
I was gonna say I don’t think there’s

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any Act of of courage or striving that

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is not somehow recognized by our higher

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selves

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and I really believe that uh and it’s

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it’s true and I’ve seen it happen so I

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00:25:50,279 –> 00:25:55,140
find that a very powerful statement for

611
00:25:53,340 –> 00:25:58,500
everybody out there that’s looking to

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activate their their Highest Potential

613
00:25:58,500 –> 00:26:04,799
so what routines or habits or tools have

614
00:26:01,260 –> 00:26:07,820
you found to be most helpful in in your

615
00:26:04,799 –> 00:26:07,820
personal development

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00:26:09,200 –> 00:26:15,419
routines and habits well the first thing

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00:26:11,940 –> 00:26:17,400
I do and I am very very lucky is every

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Tuesday night I meet with a group of

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women who’ve been on this archetype

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transformational Journey with me as

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we’ve all become certified

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00:26:23,340 –> 00:26:28,440
um through the Carolyn May sacred

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00:26:25,020 –> 00:26:30,419
contracts program and these folks we’ve

624
00:26:28,440 –> 00:26:32,159
been together now for at least a year we

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00:26:30,419 –> 00:26:35,760
meet every Tuesday night without fail

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00:26:32,159 –> 00:26:38,039
and we talk about our lives and we’re

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00:26:35,760 –> 00:26:40,799
real about it and we call each other out

628
00:26:38,039 –> 00:26:44,279
on when we’re being you know stuck in

629
00:26:40,799 –> 00:26:45,900
our shadow patterns and we don’t we we

630
00:26:44,279 –> 00:26:47,940
don’t let people off the hook we say

631
00:26:45,900 –> 00:26:48,840
what’s the next step now what’s the next

632
00:26:47,940 –> 00:26:50,880
step

633
00:26:48,840 –> 00:26:52,500
you know and you’re not allowed to stay

634
00:26:50,880 –> 00:26:54,299
stuck in your story in that group and

635
00:26:52,500 –> 00:26:56,760
there’s a lot of love and compassion and

636
00:26:54,299 –> 00:26:59,580
fun so that’s that’s one of my favorite

637
00:26:56,760 –> 00:27:01,620
things but I do a lot of writing I do a

638
00:26:59,580 –> 00:27:03,659
lot of journaling if I feel there’s a

639
00:27:01,620 –> 00:27:05,760
part of my life

640
00:27:03,659 –> 00:27:07,799
just whatever part of my life where I

641
00:27:05,760 –> 00:27:10,980
feel stuck I think okay what archetype

642
00:27:07,799 –> 00:27:13,080
is being activated in me and

643
00:27:10,980 –> 00:27:15,000
um often it’s the victim or the child or

644
00:27:13,080 –> 00:27:16,980
one of the Survivor archetypes and I do

645
00:27:15,000 –> 00:27:18,120
some writing and I’m like okay let’s get

646
00:27:16,980 –> 00:27:20,880
real here

647
00:27:18,120 –> 00:27:22,080
you know what would what would the you

648
00:27:20,880 –> 00:27:23,460
know the victim in the light is the

649
00:27:22,080 –> 00:27:25,380
guardian of self-esteem what would the

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00:27:23,460 –> 00:27:27,539
guardian of self-esteem do in this

651
00:27:25,380 –> 00:27:30,120
situation you know what would the

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00:27:27,539 –> 00:27:31,799
Sovereign if a child can’t quite protect

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00:27:30,120 –> 00:27:33,419
themselves or doesn’t have the tools or

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00:27:31,799 –> 00:27:35,039
skills they need to create something

655
00:27:33,419 –> 00:27:37,679
that they want to create

656
00:27:35,039 –> 00:27:40,020
the light side of the child is The

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00:27:37,679 –> 00:27:42,600
Sovereign The Sovereign is makes choices

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00:27:40,020 –> 00:27:44,100
for their lives because they can and

659
00:27:42,600 –> 00:27:46,380
they make happen in their lives the

660
00:27:44,100 –> 00:27:48,299
things they decide to make happen so if

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00:27:46,380 –> 00:27:50,340
I was coming from a perspective of a

662
00:27:48,299 –> 00:27:52,679
sovereign what would she do how would

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00:27:50,340 –> 00:27:55,140
she handle this situation what if I

664
00:27:52,679 –> 00:27:57,240
can’t wasn’t an option

665
00:27:55,140 –> 00:27:58,679
you know what if I need help great The

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00:27:57,240 –> 00:28:00,480
Sovereign would say go find someone who

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00:27:58,679 –> 00:28:01,679
can help you and do it but stop staying

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00:28:00,480 –> 00:28:04,020
stuck in the shadow

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so really journaling becoming conscious

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00:28:04,020 –> 00:28:08,460
of of what’s going on being conscious of

671
00:28:06,240 –> 00:28:09,720
where I’m stuck in the Kronos which is

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the default

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and actively taking steps to pull myself

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00:28:12,000 –> 00:28:19,159
out of it so I’m living a more empowered

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00:28:14,640 –> 00:28:22,620
life that’s something I do frequently

676
00:28:19,159 –> 00:28:25,380
I I cannot underscore the uh the

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importance of journaling is particularly

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with with DreamWork but just in any kind

679
00:28:28,140 –> 00:28:33,240
of self-reflection definitely it’s all

680
00:28:31,380 –> 00:28:34,980
everyone processes them in a different

681
00:28:33,240 –> 00:28:37,980
way but that’s definitely one of the

682
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ways that I process quite well is is

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writing things out and I think when you

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00:28:40,919 –> 00:28:46,440
when you put things on paper it leads

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00:28:43,980 –> 00:28:49,679
you to pull them out of that

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00:28:46,440 –> 00:28:51,900
subconscious and reflect them back to

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00:28:49,679 –> 00:28:54,360
yourself when you’re actually in the act

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00:28:51,900 –> 00:28:58,020
of writing in the act of bringing it

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into out of there and into this world

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00:28:58,020 –> 00:29:05,940
and it also makes you then a little bit

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00:29:02,400 –> 00:29:08,700
um softer about how you those things

692
00:29:05,940 –> 00:29:10,679
that you’re writing down it soothes the

693
00:29:08,700 –> 00:29:13,919
way you feel about them

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00:29:10,679 –> 00:29:18,720
leading from that disempowered

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00:29:13,919 –> 00:29:20,580
state to a more empowered state

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00:29:18,720 –> 00:29:23,880
right as long as you’re not using your

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00:29:20,580 –> 00:29:25,980
journaling to keep yourself to keep

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00:29:23,880 –> 00:29:28,559
affirming why

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00:29:25,980 –> 00:29:30,179
you’re stuck right I mean that can be

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00:29:28,559 –> 00:29:31,620
the first part of it for sure everyone

701
00:29:30,179 –> 00:29:33,059
has those feelings and those feelings

702
00:29:31,620 –> 00:29:35,159
need to be validated

703
00:29:33,059 –> 00:29:37,039
but then to take the next step what are

704
00:29:35,159 –> 00:29:39,360
we going to do now with this information

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00:29:37,039 –> 00:29:41,460
how am I going to transform this

706
00:29:39,360 –> 00:29:44,159
disempowered feeling into the next phase

707
00:29:41,460 –> 00:29:46,740
of empowerment

708
00:29:44,159 –> 00:29:48,779
so what’s next for you

709
00:29:46,740 –> 00:29:50,640
um in in your in your journey on this

710
00:29:48,779 –> 00:29:51,960
what do you what do you have coming up

711
00:29:50,640 –> 00:29:53,460
in the future and what would you how

712
00:29:51,960 –> 00:29:55,380
would you like to see what you’re doing

713
00:29:53,460 –> 00:29:58,740
grow

714
00:29:55,380 –> 00:30:00,000
great question next Sunday I’m doing an

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00:29:58,740 –> 00:30:01,559
in-person Workshop in Western

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00:30:00,000 –> 00:30:02,220
Massachusetts

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00:30:01,559 –> 00:30:04,980
um

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00:30:02,220 –> 00:30:06,299
uh my workshop oh my gosh I have so many

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different names it’s called start

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playing big harness the power of your

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archetypes to elevate your confidence

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00:30:10,919 –> 00:30:15,179
mind and life

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00:30:12,299 –> 00:30:16,559
and I’m giving that one in uh at the

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00:30:15,179 –> 00:30:19,740
Space Yoga Studio in Western

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00:30:16,559 –> 00:30:21,960
Massachusetts next Sunday and on my

726
00:30:19,740 –> 00:30:24,480
calendar is not on my calendar yet but

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00:30:21,960 –> 00:30:27,059
it’s on my agenda to create some online

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00:30:24,480 –> 00:30:28,500
offerings for this Workshop because

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00:30:27,059 –> 00:30:30,120
there’s lots of people who listen to

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00:30:28,500 –> 00:30:32,399
these podcasts who were interested who

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00:30:30,120 –> 00:30:34,080
are not in my local area so I’m going to

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00:30:32,399 –> 00:30:35,700
start some putting some things online so

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that I can get the message across that

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00:30:35,700 –> 00:30:42,960
way so if you follow my website and my

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00:30:40,260 –> 00:30:45,480
Facebook page is your Radiant Life with

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00:30:42,960 –> 00:30:48,240
Carolyn Wallace and whenever I have an

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00:30:45,480 –> 00:30:50,700
offering I posted both of those places

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00:30:48,240 –> 00:30:52,500
so if you want to keep in touch you can

739
00:30:50,700 –> 00:30:54,000
find me there

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00:30:52,500 –> 00:30:55,820
wonderful that was going to be my next

741
00:30:54,000 –> 00:30:59,159
question where everyone finds you so

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00:30:55,820 –> 00:31:01,380
thank you for easily transitioning to

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00:30:59,159 –> 00:31:03,360
that

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00:31:01,380 –> 00:31:08,179
so what’s the biggest takeaway you hope

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00:31:03,360 –> 00:31:08,179
listeners learn from our talk today

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00:31:09,059 –> 00:31:12,200
the biggest takeaway

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00:31:12,240 –> 00:31:16,140
um

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00:31:13,080 –> 00:31:19,200
that we are the powerful creators of Our

749
00:31:16,140 –> 00:31:21,899
Lives that we have access to the Divine

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00:31:19,200 –> 00:31:25,260
potential that’s inherent Within

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00:31:21,899 –> 00:31:27,240
who we are and archetypes is not the

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00:31:25,260 –> 00:31:30,059
only way to find it but it is the most

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00:31:27,240 –> 00:31:33,240
powerful way that I personally have have

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00:31:30,059 –> 00:31:35,159
found to tap into that to find it

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00:31:33,240 –> 00:31:36,720
you know when you have 12 archetypes you

756
00:31:35,159 –> 00:31:39,720
know what you’re looking at they’re all

757
00:31:36,720 –> 00:31:43,799
just so you you know you pick your own

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00:31:39,720 –> 00:31:45,480
archetypes and um they’re they’re they

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00:31:43,799 –> 00:31:47,700
you know you have the four that are the

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00:31:45,480 –> 00:31:49,500
same and then you pick the ones that

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00:31:47,700 –> 00:31:51,679
really have resonated with you since you

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00:31:49,500 –> 00:31:54,419
were a child since childhood patterns

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00:31:51,679 –> 00:31:56,640
and you have the potential to evolve

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00:31:54,419 –> 00:31:59,039
them we don’t get to change them but we

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00:31:56,640 –> 00:32:02,340
get to evolve them and it just there’s

766
00:31:59,039 –> 00:32:04,200
it’s so very exciting so you know a

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00:32:02,340 –> 00:32:05,940
disempowered state isn’t the end of the

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00:32:04,200 –> 00:32:08,340
story that’s what I always say it’s

769
00:32:05,940 –> 00:32:11,100
really only the beginning so let’s take

770
00:32:08,340 –> 00:32:13,679
a look at what archetypes are are active

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00:32:11,100 –> 00:32:15,720
in your life where they’re keeping you

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00:32:13,679 –> 00:32:17,520
maybe in a disempowered state where some

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00:32:15,720 –> 00:32:19,440
of them maybe are already very much in

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00:32:17,520 –> 00:32:22,500
the light will celebrate that and use

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00:32:19,440 –> 00:32:25,320
those to pull the other ones more toward

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00:32:22,500 –> 00:32:27,120
the light the archetypes work together

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00:32:25,320 –> 00:32:29,580
so

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00:32:27,120 –> 00:32:31,260
it’s fun it’s a lot of fun it sounds

779
00:32:29,580 –> 00:32:33,179
fascinating

780
00:32:31,260 –> 00:32:36,840
well Carolyn Wallace thank you so much

781
00:32:33,179 –> 00:32:40,159
for sharing your insights with us today

782
00:32:36,840 –> 00:32:40,159
well thank you for having me