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Megan Mary: Welcome to day. I have Caterina Ligato. She is Australia’s foremost psychic healer, with over 3 decades of experience in the fields of psychic readings, healings, house clearings, exorcisms, and a whole lot more.

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There’s a good reason why many of Caterina’s clients regard her incredible abilities as life, changing with her considerable gifts, changing lives, and blowing minds. Every single day.

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Caterina became aware of her psychic ability at the tender age of 3, and with assistance from her spirit guides. She has fostered a strong connection to the spirit world, her entire life.

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Megan Mary: To witness Caterina in action and be exposed to her unique gifts, is to have your mind opened and spirit touched. She truly is that special. Thank you for being here, Caterina.

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caterina ligato: Thank you. It’s a pleasure to be

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caterina ligato: invited by you, Megan Thank you.

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Megan Mary: That is an amazing introduction and so many questions.

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Megan Mary: let’s

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Megan Mary: tell our listeners a little bit about your

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Megan Mary: path to enlightenment, or answer. First the question, What does enlightenment mean to you?

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caterina ligato: Enlightenment to me means being able to go within. connecting into the aspects of ourselves that are connected to our Creator. being able to tap into

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caterina ligato: the the multitude of past lives that we have lived. and the wisdom gained by those past lives.

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caterina ligato: To me. That is enlightenment. It is something within us, it’s not something external. And yes, I understand like reading books, going to courses. All of that is extremely valuable.

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caterina ligato: but being able to go within being able to feel your inner world, knowing your inner world is the most valuable thing that I feel People need to work more towards. Trusting themselves

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Megan Mary: Yes, I couldn’t agree more. It’s really so important to tune in, because all of our guidance is right there inside us. If we can just figure out how to access it.

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caterina ligato: Exactly. And I know that that’s where a lot of people struggle. I know a lot of my clients like oh, I don’t know how to meditate, I’m always busy in my head, and it is something that we do. It’s a skill you do need to to learn and practice and take your time with. But as you do.

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caterina ligato: you’ll make so many amazing discoveries about yourself, like we’re so multi dimensional. There’s so many aspects to ourselves. And you know, unfortunately, we get so caught up with just this 3D reality that we forget we’re so much more than that. So I think you know.

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caterina ligato: running courses like I do run courses and meditation groups to teach people. But II always. My aim is to not make them dependent on me to sort of say, this is who you are, and this is where you go, but to teach them to be able to give them the tools to do it themselves.

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caterina ligato: to be able to answer their own questions and be their own guidance system.

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Megan Mary: Yes, and that’s really what I strive for. As well in my dreamwork.

caterina ligato: Yeah, to help people feel empowered, not feel like, Oh, I’ve got to keep coming back to you in order to you know know what to do next or make my decisions?

Megan Mary: Hmm, yes, absolutely giving them the tools that they need, so that they can tap into themselves and then be able to be their own guidance

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as they go through life.

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Megan Mary: So yeah, so

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caterina ligato: sorry. Yeah, I agree.

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Megan Mary: So tell the listeners a little bit about your story. As a child at at the age of 3.

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caterina ligato: That’s about as far back as I can remember in this lifetime. I remember being a young little thing, toddler just running, and I used to run around this house used to go in circles, and there was a an old man. He was a sweet old man, and he’d follow me was a very playful in spirit, and he’d be was quite playful, and he’d run, and he he kinda knew that I could see him and sense him and feel him and I just remember like

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caterina ligato: you know, parts of the day where I’d run around, and he’d be chasing me, and obviously as moving forward. In time I realized that you know, I was speaking to these people who were in spirit and some of it was really really nice, and some of it was really frightening.

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caterina ligato: I also came to realize that not everybody else was able to do this so either were molten, you know, many times of confusion and many times of joy also, where I could escape into my little world. I remember coming home after school, and I used to sit under My parents had this beautiful big mulberry tree under in their backyard, and they’d sit under the mulberry, and I just sit

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there, and after a while I’d see the beautiful spirit of the indigenous people of our land

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caterina ligato: doing all the tribal dances, and

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caterina ligato: was just so magnificent and so beautiful the energy and the love for the land.

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caterina ligato: and I’ve been treated II don’t know how long I’d sit there for, but I’d remember my mother so could come, Caterina, it’s time for dinner, so, like, you know, hours go by without realizing.

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caterina ligato: So I had my moments of joy, but I also had my moments of being very afraid.

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caterina ligato: I was also seeing the the convicts, the spirits of convicts, and you know they were treated very harshly. They were brought here as slaves, as convicts, and they would show me, you know, the the shackles around their ankles, and they’d be crying because they left behind their family members, or they didn’t know where the rest of the family their family, were, where their children were, and I didn’t quite understand. This

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was all kind of, you know, started happening from sort of 5 to

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caterina ligato: 12, and it was really incredible, but I felt their pain, and I’d be so sad

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caterina ligato: for them, and it’s like they were still looking for their family members. So the types of spirits I’m talking about were spirits that were earthbound that had not realised that they had died, and they were still looping in that same reality, thinking, I’m still a convict, or I’m still lost, or I’m still looking for where I live.

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caterina ligato: And unfortunately, I didn’t know how to help them, and I didn’t even know how you know. Understand why they were still kind of roaming around looking for their family quite clearly they were dead.

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caterina ligato: and then, when I got into, I was about 16 17, I began really connecting with my guides and learning to meditate, and I became you.

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caterina ligato: I began to understand that there were spirits, or people would die, and for whatever reason, feel that they weren’t ready to transition into the spirit world, and therefore would cling to the 3D Earth, or try to find families or people where they could feel comfortable and feel like they were still kind of alive in 3D.

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caterina ligato: And so you know. My guides began to speak to me about how to help them, how to cross them over, how to help them to realize

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caterina ligato: that. You know that that there were family members and loved ones on the other side waiting for them. So that that was that was a huge journey. A huge journey took many, many years of.

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caterina ligato: you know, learning to be able to do this kind of work.

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caterina ligato: and then from there on I transitioned into helping people that had curses or hexes placed upon them. From then I learned to, you know, might to learn how to

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caterina ligato: do house clearings, go into homes where people their homes moved into a haunted house, for example, and how to help them, how to help the the spirits that were roaming in these houses and help them to cross over. So this this journey. I sort of felt like, gosh, I kind of

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caterina ligato: was on for almost 20 years before I was really kind of fully into the work that I do now.

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Megan Mary: that’s a fascinating journey. Wow! I mean, and so many powerful

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Megan Mary: stories and interactions that you had and people I can imagine that you’ve helped over over those years and so many different ways.

caterina ligato:It’s been a joy to help because of help them spirits, but also help the people that were being plagued by these supernatural events.

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Megan Mary: Umhm. And when you

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Megan Mary: to, for example, like a house clearing, what?

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caterina ligato: What modalities do you utilize to help them move on?

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caterina ligato: Well, when I go to a home, I first of all go through all the rooms to assess what what’s happening in the environment. And then I,

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caterina ligato: you know, go into a meditative state where I can raise my frequency and I

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caterina ligato: I open up a portal of of divine light over the home. I also put place protection over, you know, whoever’s in the house as far as the owners of the home or children or pets, and sometimes, if it’s a really intense environment. I recommend that perhaps they sit outside, or they go off and have a coffee, whilst I take care of the more heavier work. So by

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caterina ligato: by placing the the bringing in that light I’m able to keep everything contained which is really important. So it’s like building a a spiritual fence around the property so that the energy can can be contained.

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caterina ligato: and then I’m able to connect with the the lost souls, and some of them are very afraid. Some of them are in a state of absolute fear. So it’s about channeling a lot of love and light, and just allowing them to feel some peace from the healing energy.

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caterina ligato: And then, once I’m able to kind of calm everything down, calm the environment down. I’m able then to assist them with connecting up with loved ones. It could be a mum, a dad that comes through for them, or a pet to help them to transition

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caterina ligato: without the fear in into the spirit realm. So I go through every room in the house.

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caterina ligato: I also check in the cupboards and wardrobes, cause they do. Some of them are quite funny, and they try to hide from me so, but I can always sense and feel them. And it’s a beautiful thing. I always

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caterina ligato: feel quite emotional watching them transition just from going to from this space of fear. To then, you know, when they connect with their a loved one on the other side or a pet, the the that fear drops, and there’s this beautiful smile on their faces, this piece of Oh, my gosh! Like this! Whoever there there is on the other side waiting for them. And the love is so excited that it’s like, I wanna go, I wanna go.
Megan Mary: Wow

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caterina ligato: Wow, yeah, it’s beautiful. I really feel so honored to have been able to participate in the almost like, you know, birthing people back into the gods world.

Megan Mary: Yeah, that’s that’s a wonderful metaphor.

caterina ligato:Yeah, it is.

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Megan Mary: Yeah. Hmm.

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caterina ligato: so yeah, that that’s yeah. I’ve been doing this for yeah, over 3 decades

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caterina ligato: full time. I’ve had no other career. I’d be hopeless being employed at anything else in this, I can’t type, No, no, I’m not good with technology. So I really feel like, I’m not from this world. And I really feel like this is what I’ve come here to do.

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Megan Mary: Oh, that’s definitely last part is definitely true. And and I yes, you’re probably standing in between, you know this, you really on that, on that

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Megan Mary: space that’s just in between the worlds to be able to see what you can see and do what you can do.

caterina ligato: And it’s hard, like I’ve got to always make sure that I do keep myself very balanced and connected to mother earth, if it’s so easy to drift into that higher world so much more.

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caterina ligato: it’s beautiful and peaceful. And yeah, it’s easy to just wanna kind of stay there. But

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caterina ligato: being grounded and being out in nature is really my healing world.

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Megan Mary: So when you.

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Megan Mary: when you do this kind of work, and you said, you sometimes feel like you’re being

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Megan Mary: pulled into the other other other realms, you, and it’s hard to to stay here. And and who wants to be in 3D right?
caterina ligato:So limiting
Megan Mary: Yes, talk a little bit about the dream world, because that is really I feel a portal

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Megan Mary: to the spirit world.
caterina ligato: Absolutely
Megan Mary: And it’s it’s a different brainwave for us. It’s a different energy level. It’s a different dimension. Essentially. And

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Megan Mary: I feel like it’s a way for us to travel to other places, have visitations, realize things that

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Megan Mary: really can. There’s no rules like there are here

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caterina ligato: that’s right.

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caterina ligato: which is exactly what happens when you pass away and leave your your body.

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caterina ligato: you step into the multi dimensional self which is unlimited

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caterina ligato: and has the ability to travel. You can just desire to be

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caterina ligato: in France or Italy. And you’re you’re there, I mean, when we’re manifesting from our 3D world. It’s much harder this time. We need to keep manifesting. We need to keep focus that. I wanna have a trip to Italy or France. But there’s, you know, there’s always I’ve got to have the money. I’ve got to get a plane. I’ve got to get to the airport all of that, whereas when you’re outside of your 3D Body.

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and you can just whatever your heart desires. You can just take yourself there immediately.

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caterina ligato: which is exactly the same when we go into to to sleep every night. We do leave our body, you know. Some people are, you know, what we call astral travelling, and they practice astral travelling, because this is the way where they can travel

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caterina ligato: with full awareness.

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caterina ligato: That’s like a lucid, is it lucid Dreaming where you just are travelling But you’re aware you’re aware that I’m my body’s asleep, and I’m desiring to go to a certain place or be with a certain person

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caterina ligato: and whether we are aware of this or not. We do this every night. Now I always say to people, it’s really important to think about the state of mind you’re in before you go to bed at night, because that will

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caterina ligato: trigger where you end up if you’ll go gone to bed, and you’re really tired and you’re angry, and you’ve had this bad fight with somebody. Then you’re going to probably end up in a lower dimension. And it’s not gonna be nice. And this is where people, you know, have nightmares and things like this. But if you can do some meditation and prepare yourself and and see sleep time as a sacred time.

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caterina ligato: you know the indigenous people of the earth. They knew that the dream time was a very sacred time.

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caterina ligato: and so, if you can, you know.

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caterina ligato: try and do a meditation let go of the day. The stresses, even if it means having a nice warm bath at night, perhaps playing some meditation music, and just going into a state of gratitude and love connecting in with your heart, and then set the intention. You might wanna visit a loved one on the other side, or you might wanna be connected to family who live in another country. All of this is possible.

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caterina ligato: but it does take practice, and if you’re going to sleep and you fall asleep, and you just keep remaining aware of the intention you’ve set like, okay, I wanna I wanna connect with my grandmother on the other side, or I wanna visit my my best girlfriend, who’s you know, living in another country Just keep that intention, and you fall asleep.

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caterina ligato: and I like to always sort of fall asleep with my hands over my heart, so that I’m reminding myself to be connected into my heart, because this is where, you know, we have the most powerful frequency comes from our heart.

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caterina ligato: Then eventually you’ll be able to really master this.

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caterina ligato: and like, when you able to master it. Then you have again another way of connecting with the multi-dimensionality of who you are. You can go back into past lives. You can go into future lifetimes. Also.

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caterina ligato: there’s no limit to what you can do when you’ve mastered this ability.

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caterina ligato: But again, it does take time, and we do live in a very chaotic world where there’s a lot of stresses. We’re running around all day, so you know, don’t become, you know, too upset if it doesn’t happen straight away.

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caterina ligato: but eventually it will, and there’ll be some nights that are better than others. You know, perhaps nights that you know really could work well with people are when they’re perhaps the weekend that they haven’t worked and they haven’t. You know they’ve had a bit of relaxation.

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caterina ligato: All of this will help to make this journey much more

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caterina ligato: pleasant, and the ability to remember in the morning, and the ability to remember in the morning comes from obviously not having an alarm clock going off, and stuff like that to be able to be in a state where you can wake up naturally. And and the first thing you need to do is just sit quietly and just, you know, lay there quietly and try to recall. Bring in the recall where you’ve been, what you’ve been doing.

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Megan Mary: Yes, I always talk about that, and I call it thinking backwards. I’m sure there’s a better analogy for. But it’s really just really kind, and you really have to concentrate to stay in that theta State to kind of bridge that line between the Theta and the Beta, and just kind of try to

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Megan Mary: pull it forward into the waking life. It does take practice, but it can be done, and I’ll often have people ask me about visitations that they’ve had, and many times they’ll say, you know, I can tell the difference between

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Megan Mary: I’ll say a quote unquote, normal dream that’s coming from their subconscious and a visitation dream that is, from a loved one that’s passed on.

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Megan Mary: What would you say to people that ask that question in terms of the difference.

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caterina ligato: Yeah, and look a normal dream will lack.

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caterina ligato: I guess, coming back from a normal dream, it will lack that

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caterina ligato: that intense emotion. Whereas when you come back from a dream where you’ve been with a loved one, you’ll still feel them.

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caterina ligato: You’ll feel their presence with you. You’ll you’ll feel the love, and you and and I think most of the time you’ll remember

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caterina ligato: hopefully quite a bit of the conversation that you’ve had together. Also, when you connect with loved ones, you might find yourself actually travelling into their world, their new world in the spirit world, which will be so different, so much more beautiful and vibrant than our 3D world.

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caterina ligato: So there is a real feeling of

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caterina ligato: Yeah, you’ll you’ll just wake up like I know for me. I just wake up all tearing my eyes in. Oh, gosh! I was with my my loved one, my grandma.

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caterina ligato: whoever on the other side, because I just feel I can just still feel her around me.

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Megan Mary: And we had had a conversation before about time Loops and i’d like to talk about that a little bit, the time travel interdimensional time travel, and how people can get stuck in time loops both spirits and

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Megan Mary: and us and how we get trapped in that lower dimension, even here in a waking life.

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caterina ligato: Hmm. so yeah, you can loop if you are in a constant state of negativity, and perhaps you’re using things like drugs and alcohol to get you through, and you’re not doing the inner work. Then you do begin to loop in in the lower

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caterina ligato: the lower astral planes of even this reality, which means that you will start to feel constantly stuck in the same thing. Nothing changes, and you can see people that are in that loop going round and round. Nothing ever changes, and they continuously complain, and they feel like the victims they’re they’re they’re like yo. It doesn’t matter what I do. Nothing works or blame everything else but

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caterina ligato: themselves putting themselves there. And look, I know It’s hard, and I know this might sound a little harsh, but sometimes you have to give yourself that reality chat.

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caterina ligato: Take responsibility for what I’m creating, because that’s the beginning of the healing process. And once you do that, you can begin to heal that your situation, no matter how negative or difficult it may be. But you know you’ve got to be prepared to do the inner work

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caterina ligato: there. There has to be looking into the trauma and and and most humans, we’re all traumatized, whether it be from our childhood, whether it be from past lives. Whether it’s, you know, ancestral trauma that we’re carrying from our ancestors, because you know the DNA, the genetics, we carry the DNA and genetics of our ancestors. These are passed on so the trauma can be coming from many places. But as you

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caterina ligato: step into your inner world and you begin exploring.

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caterina ligato: Then you can begin to unravel and heal and step more into your own power. And this is how, then you can step out of the loop and actually focus on what is it that I really am wanting to create Manifesting, you know?

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caterina ligato: And so you’re stepping into empowerment rather than poor me? This keeps happening to me. Nothing ever changes.

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caterina ligato: And so this this type of person who is in the victim mentality will also experience the same thing in the dream time they’ll be having dreams where they feel tormented, or frightened, or scared, or restless, or wake up feeling tired. They’ll probably be out in the astral fighting and arguing with people they don’t like here on Earth.

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caterina ligato: you know. It’s like classic. I hear it all the time. You know the the divorce with the

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caterina ligato: Husband and wife almost wanted to kill themselves, but couldn’t obviously obvious reasons. But we’ll do it out in the Astrals like I keep dreaming of my husband and that bastard, you know, we because you know you, this gotta be a point. We just gotta make a piece with it, even if you can’t forgive, try to make a piece of it. So this would mean whatever we’re creating here with creating the duplicate of it out in our dream state.

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caterina ligato: so that that then, depends on the timeline that you’re on. So if you’re on this timeline of, I’m a victim poor me, and I’m just gonna keep fighting, and the world’s against me. Then you’re going to keep travelling that timeline. But when you begin to do the forgiveness that you’re making your peace with everything.

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caterina ligato: then you are much more empowered, and you much have much more of an ability to switch into a timeline that is going to be a reflection of the joy and the love that you you are now feeling towards yourself.

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caterina ligato: and also that then plays out in your dream time, where you’ll be able to travel into higher dimensions. You may even be able to meet. Beautifully beautiful, you know I do. I meet a lot of ets the benevolent etS. That are here to help us and access, and and, you know, share wisdom and knowledge with them.

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caterina ligato: So there’s, you know, there’s there’s this incredible multiverse that we can access when we are coming from a space of love

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caterina ligato: rather than constant anger and hatred. because the higher et’s the evolved et, they They are in a state of pure harmony. Love.

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caterina ligato: So there has to be.

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caterina ligato: you know, when you’re coming from a space of love, then

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caterina ligato: that that that energy connects with their energy.

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caterina ligato: So that’s how we can experience these higher dimensions or other

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caterina ligato: people, other races of beings when we come from a space of love

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Megan Mary: that was, gonna be my question. How can how can people tune in and and start really
caterina ligato: Tune in from your heart? Open up a conversation, even

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caterina ligato: watch when you’re meditating, open up a conversation, and.

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caterina ligato: you know, expand that love out to the higher beings that are here to to help us, or the higher beings who’ve perhaps had life experiences here in 3D. But now have, you know, been able to

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caterina ligato: grow beyond and above, and have merged with Creator God, and they live in sync with love and harmony. And they you know, they co-create with God, you know. And so this is how, when we come from that space, and we send out the love. Then that echoes out into the universes, and it’ll be picked up.

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caterina ligato: See, the higher beings have learnt to co-create with God, whereas here we still believe that we’ve got to get on our knees and go, please God, please. But no, if you co-create with the essence, the force of love, I call it. Then you become an incredibly multi dimensional, powerful being.

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caterina ligato: And I think that is what’s lacking here on earth. I mean, you know, we all sort of feeling like victims, or we feel like slaves, or we’ve gotta be. Yo do doing this 9 to 5 job every day, and it’s all so busy busy. We forget

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caterina ligato: that we really are incredible, infinite beings where that’s just not even taught until you go out and take the journey and begin to explore yourself.

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Megan Mary: Yes, I completely agree. And that’s really, if if anybody could take take it away from this conversation, it would be that

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Megan Mary: there really is so much more. And and I always have felt since I was little. But there was so much more. And I’m actually this episode is actually coming out the week of Halloween, because that is

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Megan Mary: what my favorite holiday of the year, and I know that not. It’s not celebrated all around the world. But when I was growing up it really was the one time of year that everybody would at least acknowledge that there were spirits all around us, and it was

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Megan Mary: the idea that you can access them that they are closer than you think. And I wanted that all the time, because I loved that feeling of that acknowledgment, and that support, and the mystery and the intrigue. And

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Megan Mary: so I really feel like everybody would benefit from opening back up to that invitation of stepping into that alignment and

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Megan Mary: really opening their minds to the possibility that

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Megan Mary: there are. There is so much more than just this dimension.

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caterina ligato: Of course and it’s an opening up of the mind and opening up of the heart, being able to make decisions from your heart.

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caterina ligato: And this is, I think, something else that’s lacking very much the compassion and empathy for each other for nature.

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caterina ligato: It’s completely lacking within humanity, like, you know, I, when I am out speaking with my guides or my beautiful et connections. It’s all about, you know. Teach people to open up their hearts more, to think, to feel from their heart, make a decision. What would love choose? What would my heart choose in any circumstance you find yourself. You’ll ask, what would love? Choose? What would my heart choose? And when we begin to.

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caterina ligato: you know communicate and connect more through our hearts, then we will become a much more evolved humanity, and then we will be having much, much better and more

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caterina ligato: enlightened experience here on planet Earth, and I think that where there is a great awakening I know that there’s a lot of people still stuck, and they don’t want change. But I believe right now that we are at a very incredible time

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caterina ligato: in history, where there is a great awakening, and people are asking more questions that people are wanting to know. People are wanting to learn, and they want to explore who they really are more than ever before.

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because we’ve been dumbed down for so long

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caterina ligato: dumbed down and controlled for so long. You know that we’re kind of taking these chains off, and we’re breaking free and going. Oh, I want to experience the multi-dimensional. I want to be able to communicate with my et family.

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caterina ligato: I want to be able to speak with my guides. I want to continue to have a connection with my grandmother, grandfather, mother, father, father, who’s passed away instead We think they’re gone that we can’t reach them any more. And that’s so, not true.

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caterina ligato: It’s just you’ve got to learn. I always say to my clients it’s just learning to communicate with them in a different way from your heart.

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caterina ligato: and so I do believe there is a great awakening to raise the frequency of this earth into the higher frequency. Mother earth herself wants to be raised. She’s raising her frequency to take herself into a higher earth, and it’s either we go along with that, or we don’t.

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caterina ligato: And that’s where they talk about this split in time lines where we’ll either there’ll be people who will follow and go up into the higher frequency with the higher earth, where it will be communication through our intuition, through our hearts.

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caterina ligato: or those that remain in that lower frequency of Mother Earth, where it will be quite dark and difficult place to be.

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Megan Mary: Oh, that’s very interesting.
caterina ligato: That’s what’s going on.

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Megan Mary: And I’ve heard about the awakening. I’ve heard that a lot of people are hearing the call.

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caterina ligato: Yeah, or seeing the numbers. You know, a lot of people said, seeing Number 1111 or 2222. These all you know the universe going, hey? Wake up, we’re here
Megan Mary: yes, yes, absolutely

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Megan Mary: well, for people that want to find out a little bit more about you. Where? Where can they find you? I know you have a podcast the Australian ghost whisperer.

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caterina ligato: That’s right and Youtube channel. Also the Australian ghost whisperer. And if you have any difficulties, finding that they can connect with me on my website, caterinaligato.com.au

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Megan Mary: awesome.

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Megan Mary: Well, thank you so much for being here today, Katherine. It’s been a wonderful converstaion.
caterina ligato: It’s been an absolute pleasure. Thank you for having me.

Megan Mary: Yes, and I know our listeners will love it, and I’m just honored to be here and hear everything that you’ve shared so. Thank you again.

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caterina ligato: Been a pleasure. Thanks.